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  brettodactyl1 month, 3 weeks ago

  Matthew 12:33-37:

  http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=mat... 12:33-37&version=9

  Heavenly Father,

  Many of us are guilty of saying things that we later regret, but perhaps we need to not be so quick to just brush those things away by saying that we didn't mean them. There is always some reason for the things we do, and the way to fix it is to allow You to change the way we feel. So, please change those of us who need to be changed. Change us into the most honorable Christians we can be, and make us shining examples of Christian love and morality. Allow us to be the good trees which bear good fruit, as Jesus discussed.

  In Jesus' name,

  Amen

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    SonOfTheMask1 month, 3 weeks ago

    Amen. Thanks, Brett.

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      CactusAnnie1 month, 3 weeks ago

      Amen, thanks again Brett

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        Goppy1 month, 3 weeks ago

        Yes indeed, thanks brett.

        I think this is an especially pertinent Devotional - most importantly because - as this is an anonymous internet 'room' ... none of us can see the other's face when we communicate our personal thoughts.

        There are those among us ... especially those who arrogantly claim to be Christian Conservative ... who use words as daggers.

        For instance ... this particular member has posted some particularly egregious comments directed at me ... many of which claimed I did not believe in God.

        This is the comment of this member (who I will not name) who claimed to be 'more blessed' than I:

        "You deserve to be ruled by islam, you stupid goat's teat. Your family must be SO proud of you and your moslem c*nt!"

        But actually, I think I understand... Christian Conservatives in this country have very rigid political beliefs. In fact, they have MUCH more passion about their political beliefs than they do in Religion.

        Too Bad.

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          Goppy1 month, 3 weeks ago

          Oh ... just in case the point was lost on us Righties ... here is a reply from one of the MOST vocal Christian Conservatives on Popieller when he did not agree with a POLITICAL observation I made.

          "Stick to luring children into your trailer with candy. Commenting on public policy and issues isn't working out for you."

          Again ... I don't think I need to say who said this ... they know who they are ... in fact, they show up on the Sunday Devotional quite often.

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          I think for Christianity to survive and remain relevant in poeple's lives, I think poeple are going to have to come to the realization that their AVOWED BELIEF in Jesus Christ has been PERVERTED by the politics of vengance, small mindedness, greed, and selfishness.

          I believe the vile words being used by those on the Right exemplifies their Moral Disconnect.

          I have found that when poeple continually resort to angry words as part of their argument, liek say, libsRfunny and FSU92grad, it reveals spiritual death.

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            Goppy1 month, 3 weeks ago

            Oh, I shouldn't leave out this member who regularly posts some of the most vile commentary ... and who ... rather than being denounced by "'Christian'" Conservatives on Popieller gets RABID support in the form of 'GOOD' votes.

            This is an example of Christian Commentary that is quite commonly proferred by this member.

            ""Of course the Hillbilly *hore Hopper, and his lovely wife Brunno are blocking the release of the DVD of the Path to 9-11. Don't you remember him going on Fox and screaming like a mad man trying to convince America he did something about Bin Laden? No one believed him then and no one believes them now.""

            See?

            I believe we are talking true Moral Vacancy --- not just in the constancy of liek minded commentary from this member --- but through the constant and gleeful support shown to this member.

            It's sad to see poeple representing their faith so poorly.

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          vettenut1 month, 3 weeks ago

          Goppy:

          I have carefully read this post and the ones following in it, wherein you rant against a group of people whom you label as "Christian Conservatives." You ascribe many beliefs in great detail to those you lump as one under that banner.

          And, although you do have some good observations in your list of "grievances," the fact that you dwell so long, and with some apparent satisfaction, on your litany of "their wrongs" reveals to us readers that you are very much like those you criticize so vocally, albeit a mirror image of them....

          For true answers to emerge from a situation like this, people must break out of the name-calling and label-pasting that is so rampant in your rants, as well as in those of the folks on the "other side of the fence," AND move toward meaningful and courteous dialogue based upon the open reading of the Scriptures and the leading of the Holy Spirit.

          Only then can constructive progress be made!!!!

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            Goppy1 month, 3 weeks ago

            First of all ... I'm having difficulty understanding your description of my commentary as a 'Rant'.

            Perhaps this will help. Here's the definition of Rant:

            "To speak or write in a angry or violent manner; rave."

            So, I am mystified that you conclude MY comment as a Rant ... when all I am doing is agreeing with brett ... and providing objective samples of 'words said in anger' that I have seen on Popieller.

            Further ... I am intrigued that you find my comments ... which are essentially a LIST ... more egregious than the Hostile Comments I've listed.

            I can only conclude from your post that your objective is to excuse the inexcusable.

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              vettenut1 month, 3 weeks ago

              Goppy:

              (In reverse order)

              1. I excuse nothing. You conclude wrongly!

              2. I did not state, nor do I believe that your comments are "more egregious" than those you list. I clearly stated that I see you and those with whom you disagree as "mirror images." That implicitly conveys equality, not inequality. I find ALL derogatory comments, label-pasting and name-calling equally egregious! Please do not ascribe to me things or thoughts I did not express.

              3. One man's "commentary" is another man's "rant." You are well known on this site for your emotional and forceful "broad strokes of the brush." I simply call you to account, as a "brother in the Lord," to ask that you be constructive in at least some of your efforts on Propeller, so that the level of discourse can subside to a dull roar, and not remain at its present, deafening level.

              And BTW, I also call your "opponents" to the same cause!!!

              Thank you!

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    CactusAnnie1 month, 3 weeks ago

    Brett, the link in your comment went to Matthew 1. When I just tried to paste the link from the page it did the same thing as yours, so here are the verses:

    Matthew 12:33-37:

    33"Make a tree good and its fruit will be good, or make a tree bad and its fruit will be bad, for a tree is recognized by its fruit. 34You brood of vipers, how can you who are evil say anything good? For out of the overflow of the heart the mouth speaks. 35The good man brings good things out of the good stored up in him, and the evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in him. 36But I tell you that men will have to give account on the day of judgment for every careless word they have spoken. 37For by your words you will be acquitted, and by your words you will be condemned."

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      brettodactyl1 month, 3 weeks ago

      Thanks for posting the correct verses. I'm not sure how the link got messed up.

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  Pupi1 month, 3 weeks ago

  Psalm 51:10-11

  10 Create in me a clean heart, O God,

  And renew a steadfast spirit within me.

  11 Do not cast me away from Your presence,

  And do not take Your Holy Spirit from me.

  I pray the Holy Spirit within all of us cleanses our hearts and minds so what we do say will be edifying, encouraging, and loving-- to Believers and unbelievers, alike, so others may be drawn to Christ through our words and actions, and God may get the Glory.

  In Jesus' Name-- AMEN

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  not2needy1 month, 3 weeks ago

  Once angry words have been spoken, no amount of apologizing can change the words or take them back. I have told many of my family members this so many times, because a lot of times, the first reaction to adversity is to say hurtful things. It's hard to edit what we say when we are hurt or angry, but thinking first and speaking last is always the best choice.

  Thanks Brett, i always get a lot out of your Sunday Devotion.

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    Pupi1 month, 3 weeks ago

    Thank you for your wise words, Dear Sister! How true they are indeed!! We cannot take back words we wished we did NOT say!

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      not2needy1 month, 3 weeks ago

      Thank You Pupi, you always make me feel better with your wisdom. I love you my sweet, sweet Sister.

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      not2needy1 month, 3 weeks ago

      . When are they ever going to get Propeller fixed?

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  Francisca1 month, 3 weeks ago

  Never say too much, or say only what is sure and true!

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  vettenut1 month, 3 weeks ago

  An equivalent, contemporary paraphrase of Matthew 12:34:

  "Out of the overflow of the heart, the keystroke and mouse-click speak...."

  Those of us claiming to be "Christians" should take care in what we post here on Propeller. There are thousands of Propeller readers who are only too glad to point out when someone identified as a "Christian" makes a callous, crude or downright obscene remark in their post. The critical observer then has "ammunition" wherewith to point out (with great fanfare) that the offensive remark was made by a "Christian."

  Let's commit to NOT give ANY "ammunition" to the non-Christian critics and to the enemy of our souls, who would then use it against the cause of the God's Kingdom.

  Let's commit to post our comments as though Jesus himself knew what we are posting.

  Because He does...... !!!

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    vettenut1 month, 3 weeks ago

    And, let's also commit to sincerely pray for those who would "sink" the Biblical and God-honoring articles and posts here on Propeller, beginning with "ccm....."

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  Redneck1 month, 3 weeks ago

  Thanks Brett. I missed your invitation to join you here among my messages but finally found it. The passage cited says "out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks." Jesus was correct. Whatever is in the heart in abundance overflows out the mouth.

  Christians should consider Ephesians 4:29 carefully and plan to daily speak words that will minister grace to others. But that does not limit one from debunking false ideas and concepts others tout as "wisdom." Jesus also said our "light" would reprove the darkness. I take that to mean one is obligated to speak out truth when lies are being touted as wisdom and truth. Many however deem that to be "un-Christian". One should be polite and not abusive and rude but still speak the Truth. When Truth is in the heart in abundance it also comes out.

  Blessings to ya and thanks for the word.

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  Wolfie20071 month, 3 weeks ago

  Once again, Brett, I have to thank you for the devotional. This weeks message is one I need to take to heart and work on diligently. I thank you for bring it to my attention.

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  texangelwings1 month, 3 weeks ago

  Thank you Brett! I was busy, Sunday, sorry I am late reading your Sunday Devotional. One of our church members has been hospitalized and now is back in ICU.

  We are only as good as our word. We have the promise of God's love and forgiveness. I want Him to keep His word, I must respect Him and keep my word.

  Once again this Sunday devotional stirs the need to "do unto others as you would have them do unto you", obeying the Lord.

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