Lakeland Revival Contact Information »
Posted by: mikhurst 2 months, 4 weeks agoFor those with questions, here is a website offering detailed information about the "Lakeland Revival". Offers contact info for the Revival (where it's happening), Ignited Church (where it began) and Fresh Fire Ministries (Todd Bentley's Ministry).
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mikhurst2 months, 4 weeks ago
Huge site with contact info to the major contributors to the Revival, plus testimonies, etc...
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smithichie2 months, 4 weeks ago
I am still waiting on the update on the girl you and Bentley have claimed was resurrected. What is her current condition? Can she eat and breath on her own? Can she speak? Why are such simple answers so difficult to come by?
I am sure you are aware there have been fraudulent healers, well one of the ways they are able to commit such frauds is a lack of follow up with the supposedly healed. If your revival is so different I think you would be more forthcoming with simple answers.
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mikhurst2 months, 3 weeks ago
re:"I am still waiting on the update..." ->
http://religion.propeller.com/story/2008/06/10/...
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smithichie2 months, 3 weeks ago
Giving me the phone number of the hospital where this girl was supposedly resurrected is not an update. The hopitial isn't going to release one bit of information to me.
By giving me the hospital phone number are you saying this girl has not been released after her 'resurrection'? If so, then perhaps we are getting somewhere. Is she in for observation or is she in because it's the only place she can be kept alive?
Earlier you reported she was "alive and well". Personally, I consider the state of being "well" as not needing to be in the hospital, but everyone probably has their own defintion of the rather subjective word, "well". That's the part I would appreciate being updated and surely if someone was able to report that vague statement, they could back it up with a tiny bit of information. Like, can she breath and eat on her own?
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mikhurst2 months, 3 weeks ago
re:"By giving me the hospital phone number are you saying this girl has not been released after her 'resurrection'?" -> no, by giving you the hospital phone number I am saying "do your own legwork". By your own admission, you're a "stirrer of the pot, rocker of boats, smart-ass." Being a skeptic, you could deny every story and "demand evidence to your satisfaction" for my every submission. And you guys have a habit of changing the subject of practically every submitted post. This one's about contact info. I suggest you contact the hosptial or Lakeland Revival for further verification.
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smithichie2 months, 3 weeks ago
I haven't been changing the subject one bit. I have been asking for clarification for this one girl supposedly 'resurrected', since you have posted the claim. It is you who keep changing the subject by posting more unsubstantiated claims while refusing to answer simple questions about one claim. Which is exactly how such frauds are carried out, no follow up on the supposedly 'healed' and 'resurrected'. Frauds expect and exploit the public's short memory.
Instead of contacting the Revival I am tempted to contact the local District Attorney and find out what they are doing about this. If I lived in FL, I most certainly would.
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mikhurst2 months, 3 weeks ago
re:"I am tempted to contact the local District Attorney...If I lived in FL, I most certainly would." -> I guess God's really lucky you don't live in Florida.
I'm forced to ask the same old question that seems to never get answered...What on earth are you guys trying to save us (Christians) from? I hope you know that nobody's forcing anyone to jump on a flight and fly halfway around the world to get themselves cured of a terminal illness. But they ARE doing it. You weigh it out. Stirring up your faith plus the cost of an airline ticket vs a doctors diagnosis of "in three months you'll be dead".
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nyogtha2 months, 3 weeks ago
Shyster Mike -> "> I'm forced to ask the same old question that seems to never get answered...What on earth are you guys trying to save us (Christians) from?"
What a liar! That question gets answered almost every time you ask it. Are you too retarded to remember? Personally, I don't care to save your lying ass from anything. I merely expose your snake oil for what it is in the hopes that at least one person won't get caught up in it and get ripped off.
Now, I'll ask a question that seems to never get answered. How can I make $7000 over and over for selling no product? Is giving you $12K sufficient?
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smithichie2 months, 3 weeks ago
It's not any god that I think the local DA needs to investigate, it's that fraud Bentley and his pushers, such as yourself that need to be investigated.
I am not interested in saving YOU, it's obviously too late for that, but I do have empathy for the folks you steal money from and from the folks whose spirits are crushed by Bentley. Folks who wonder why they weren't healed, or why the healing that happened the night before mysteriously vanishes in the morning. Folks whose family members question their faith when they aren't healed.
A con-artist who tricks an elderly person out of money for something like roof repair that is never done, isn't FORCING that person out of their money. I suppose that makes it right in your book? What am I saying? You're one of those people yourself according to your own profile.
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smithichie2 months, 3 weeks ago
I have done my own "leg work" but will provide a link to Florida's AG Bill McCollum for those who wish to file a complaint as I have done. Maybe he will have better luck than I have had in getting answers to simple questions.
http://myfloridalegal.com/contact.nsf/contact?O...
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mikhurst2 months, 3 weeks ago
re:"...for those who wish to file a complaint as I have done." -> you're a real humanitarian, smithi. Turn your back on petitioning against the "Adult" Store down the street that's making a tidy little "legal, acceptable" business of peddling child pornography? Of course, they're not making any waves.
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smithichie2 months, 3 weeks ago
The Adult Bookstore is not commiting fraud. People that go to Adult Bookstores (the key word being adult), know what they are going to get. If you know of any Adult Bookstores commiting fraud, feel free to provide a link to their local Attorney General and I will be happy to file a complaint right beside you.
People going to fraudulent healing revivals may be expecting a bit more than is delivered and may end up losing more than they care to admit. Fraudulent revivals count not only on a gullible public, but also one who turns a blind eye. If Bentley is on the up and up he should welcome an investigation as should you.
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mikhurst2 months, 3 weeks ago
re:"The Adult Bookstore is not committing fraud." -> Todd Bentley is not committing fraud. If somebody says of their own free will, "I had pain and it's gone" where's the fraud? If somebody was sentenced to a wheelchair by a physician and they decide to get out of it, where's the fraud? Todd's just compiling and announcing the testimonies freely submitted to him.
And it disturbs, but not surprises me that you're an advocate for pornography. You're the one who's duped by thinking pornography is ok because it's "non-fraudulent". Do you actually think that all porn producers do background checks, test for communicable diseases and demand birth certificates to make sure everything is "legal". You'd have to be a fool if you think so.
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nyogtha2 months, 3 weeks ago
You do realize that your own words are just a few lines up, don't you?
Mike ->"You're the one who's duped by thinking pornography is ok because it's "non-fraudulent"
You said above, "child pornography" in an attempt to emotionalize the issue.
Mike ->"Do you actually think..."
Porn producers in the U.S. are REQUIRED to demand proof of age of performers AND keep such proof on file indefinitely for ready access to various law enforcement officials. These officials do not require court order to view such documentation. They merely have to request it and must be granted access immediately. Care to point to one that doesn't? Do you know of an adult store that is "peddling child pornogray?" Show the proof or STFU.
Mike ->"You'd have to be a fool if you think so."
You'd have to be an idiot if you think they're not. Then again, you have repeatedly show yourself to be a idiot.
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smithichie2 months, 3 weeks ago
MK-"Todd Bentley is not committing fraud".
That remains to be seen. If he's not, he should welcome an investigation.
MK-"And it disturbs, but not surprises me that you're an advocate for pornography".
Weren't YOU the one accusing ME of changing the subject a few posts above? Filing a complaint against Bentley and his revivial in no way shape or form implies my personal views for or againsts pornography and has nothing to do with the subject at hand.
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mikhurst2 months, 3 weeks ago
re:"Weren't YOU the one accusing ME of changing the subject...?" -> smithi, I apologize if it was taken as such. My intent was to contrast your efforts of involving a government agency investigation into (a) something I view as a positive toward society (healing and deliverance), vs (b) something I view as a negative toward society (the pornography industry). It saddens me to see people view Christianity as a greater evil than what I consider the lies and work of the devil (which in this case, I cited what's deemed by law as acceptable, "legal" pornography).
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MereMortal2 months, 3 weeks ago
Actually, you cited legal CHILD pornography, which does not exist.
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nyogtha2 months, 4 weeks ago
There is also a link to an alleged MSNBC article which, when clicked, gives a 404. More B$ from a snake oil salesman.
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mikhurst2 months, 3 weeks ago
re:"...WHY did the hospital "deny the report"?" -> who said the hospital denied the report, other than an anonymous blogger who calls him/herself "Charismania"? My understanding is that the hospital denied ownership of that statement because their "press department" never released such a statement.
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MereMortal2 months, 3 weeks ago
"who said the hospital denied the report, other than an anonymous blogger who calls him/herself "Charismania"?"
http://www.charismamag.com/cms/news/archives/05...
This one doesn't look like a blogger.
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MereMortal2 months, 3 weeks ago
"who said the hospital denied the report, other than an anonymous blogger who calls him/herself "Charismania"?"
http://www.charismamag.com/cms/news/archives/05...
This one doesn't look like a blogger.
"My understanding is that the hospital denied ownership of that statement because their "press department" never released such a statement."
Then you admit to having a source for this that you have not cited?
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mikhurst2 months, 3 weeks ago
Listen Dude, you claim to be omniscient and omnipresent. I don't. I'm busy inquiring on important pressing questions, like smithi's, "How about cars? Can Bentley's healing power be applied to broken down cars and trucks?" Maybe you ought to sit smithi down and have a talk with him.
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MereMortal2 months, 3 weeks ago
Listen Dude, you are the one making fantastic claims of resurrections and such. When questioned about your sources, you get all in a snit. Maybe you out to put up or shut up. On this I agree with Hmac and Nyogtha - you are an idiot and a liar.
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mikhurst2 months, 3 weeks ago
thou shalt not call thy beloved created ones, idiots and liars!
The real God, (the God of the Bible, YHVH, Jehovah, Yahweh, Adonai, Elohay Elohiym, I AM, or any other number of reverent Names) is a compassionate God who loves His created people, knows their every weakness, and sent His Son, Jesus to redeem them not to condemn them.
Oops, I guess this just goes to show that you are nothing more than a "mere mortal". I offer the contact info of the hospital to you as well. Feel free to call them and "verify the story to your satisfaction".
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MereMortal2 months, 3 weeks ago
"thou shalt not call thy beloved created ones, idiots and liars!"
Thou shalt not instruct the Lord thy God! When the shoe fits, shove it up your arse!
I AM the real YHVH. Why doest thou question me, o ye of little faith? I AM not a compassionate God. I AM a practical God.
There shall be no rapture for you nor for your prosperity gospel.
"Feel free to call them and "verify the story to your satisfaction"."
As I Said before, you are the one making the fantastic claims. You are the one who needs to do the work and post the evidence. Unless you don't have any.
I REPEAT:
"My understanding is that the hospital denied ownership of that statement because their "press department" never released such a statement."
Then you admit to having a source for this that you have not cited?
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mikhurst2 months, 3 weeks ago
re:"I REPEAT..." -> the incident with the 3-year old girl happened May 12. You know the day, you know the girl. You "knit her in her mother's womb". You "knew her before the beginnings of time". You claim to be omniniscent. You claim to be omnipresent. Go back with me since May 12th and let's revisit all the Live God.tv broadcasts, all the Ustream.tv broadcasts, all the FreshFire podcasts, all the YouTube videos, all the internet news articles, all the Propeller submissions and all the personal conversations I have had since that day. It's all in there. That's how I came to what I deemed as "my understanding" of the situation...but you knew that already, didn't you?
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mikhurst2 months, 3 weeks ago
re:"all the Live God.tv broadcasts..." -> what could further from "creative media" and more "open to scrutiny" than a "live" broadcast? For 60 days Todd has laid this all open to "the unbelievers" and to "the world". If somebody claims they've been paralytic since birth, gets up out of their wheelchair on live tv, and gives glory to God, I don't think it's FreshFire Ministry's job to obtain a birth certificate, medical records, a mental evaluation and do a "This is Your Life" style presentation on them to "prove" to the world that (1) they're real, or (2) that God touched them. Do your own legwork, prove it acceptable or unacceptable by your own measures, or take the story in the light of which it was presented.
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MereMortal2 months, 3 weeks ago
NOW I see the problem! You can't distiguish reality from fantasy.
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MereMortal2 months, 3 weeks ago
Up above, you said
"who said the hospital denied the report, other than an anonymous blogger who calls him/herself "Charismania"? My understanding is that the hospital denied ownership of that statement because their "press department" never released such a statement."
So, if it is Charismania that you are getting your info from, just say so.
As for the rest of your comment, you really are an idiot, aren't you? Damn, I Screwed Up when I Created you. Oh well, back to the Holy Drawing Board.
YHVH
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nyogtha2 months, 3 weeks ago
Mikey -> "thou shalt not call thy beloved created ones, idiots and liars! "
Wow! You obviously admit that he is your god! COOL! This is a historic occasion! A bonafide god carrying on a conversation with his wayward fundie child! How f'ing cool is that?
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