I Buy Your Pardon! Trading Money for Salvation »
Posted by: skillfulll 5 months, 1 week agoNice overview of the sale of Catholic indulgences and the latest from the Poperino
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rdy2rck5 months, 1 week ago
I was raised catholic but don't consider myself one now but even my parents who are Catholic are wondering what this new Pope is doing. He almost seems the alter ego of John Paul II whom I have deep respect for.
I don't know what the church earthly "rules" are now but know many Catholics who still say the rosary by a point system.
But this article brought out a question I've always had, where do they get purgatory and limbo from?
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ETproductions5 months, 1 week ago
The new business in indulgences is in the Evangelical movement. There was a rapidly growing Evangelical church just down the street from me when we lived in Virginia Beach. I attended for a while. The pastor would routinely develop some EMERGENCY where the evil left was about to handcuff all true believers and herd them into reeducation camps or some such nonsense.
He'd ask for a show of hands who had faith enough to promise a $1,000 donation to stem this evil tide. He'd get 15 or 20 grand committed, then drop down to $100 and get another like sum.
Note: He wore pounds of diamond encrusted jewelry, rode around in a chauffeur driven limousine, and lived in a palatial mansion.
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Idamilli5 months, 1 week ago
In my opinion, the sole purpose of indulgences was to make the already rich RC church richer. I pity the poor fools who felt obligated to keep on buying indulgences for their departed loved ones; they felt it was a responsibility, that they could actually help their deceased loved one get into heaven if he/she was in the other fabricated and STUPID concept of a place called purgatory. I'm a former Catholic, and I will never ever consider going back to that religion; I think it does far more harm than good. And Ratzinger is about the poorest example of a pope there could ever be. He should be in a psych ward -- permanently!
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CRYMTYPHON5 months ago
Indulgences were originaly sold when the RC ( Roman Catholic ) was the only church in western europe. You are right it was about money. It was also about sex and art.
It went to finance a lot of beautiful Renaisance art, like the Sistine Chapel and grand events like the wedding of the daughter of the Pope.
Anyone interested in the whole business, should read Barbara Tuchman's The March of Folly. It is very funny, insightful; makes you think of our own follies.
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chuck-the-canuck5 months, 1 week ago
Tales like this just add credence to the old cliche "a fool and his money are soon parted".
Rather than selling salvation, the church should try selling hell bound tickets for the faithful's enemies. It seems that many of the faithful are a hateful, intolerant bunch. I'm sure that the church could raise quite a bit of cash to pay off the law suits being brought by the abused if they introduced some sort of program where the bible addled could indulge their intolerant proclivities by paying the church to send their enemies to hell.
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globalwarmer5 months, 1 week ago
If the Vatican needs more money, they could put in some slot machines. People need something to do while their waiting in line to pray to something... just a thought.
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Locky125 months, 1 week ago
The Catholic Church DOES NOT sell indulgences. That stopped with Martin Luther.
Today, the Church approves indulgences through confession, prayer and the Eucharist.
When you go to confession your sins are forgiven, but temporal punishment remains. So you could pray certain prayers-- intentions for the Pope and especially receive the Eucharist to receive the indulgence. But you must first go to confession to have the sin forgiven.
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sumptuousdigs5 months ago
Then turn around three times, click your heals together and utter the magic words...
"Walla Walla Washington!"
LOL!
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sumptuousdigs5 months ago
...then turn around three times, click your heels together and utter the magic words...
"Walla Walla Washington!"
LOL!
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sumptuousdigs5 months ago
...then turn around three times, click your heels together and utter the magic words...
"Walla Walla Washington!"
LOL!
With the erosion of the Vatican's influence in the real world, it's clear to me now why they chose a Pope that will hold the Seigfreid Line.
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