Saudi Arabia: Halt Woman's Execution for 'Witchcraft' »
Posted by: bobo-in-texas 6 months, 3 weeks agoReligion of Peace Update - King Abdullah should halt the execution of Fawza Falih and void her conviction for "witchcraft," Human Rights Watch said in a letter to the Saudi king.
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bobo-in-texas6 months, 3 weeks ago
In a related incident.
On November 2, Saudi Arabia executed Mustafa Ibrahim for sorcery in Riyadh. Ibrahim, an Egyptian working as a pharmacist in the northern town of `Ar'ar, was found guilty of having tried "through sorcery" to separate a married couple, according to a Ministry of Interior statement.
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Daylight6 months, 3 weeks ago
EsaEngr
Practices like this clearly demonstrate just how stuck in the past most countries in the middle east are! We only hear of a very small percentage of the autrocities committed in the name os Islam.
In fact it is you who are living in the past not Muslims, you have the technology yet you live like pagans. I want you to check this out to find out how backward you are.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSwcBN9yImQ
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DanmLiberals6 months, 3 weeks ago
what crap you little video is.
Islam right now is taking wiping out people in Sudan village by village. Country's next to Somalia have given military support to fight the Muslim horde their that has stolen food from the people and started genocide of tribes that aren't Muslim.
Last year in England Muslims carried signs that read " Down with England and USA." " Kill all the Infidels." There are parts of England where you cant go because of Muslims that kill in the name of Islam.
In the Philippines where the people there have done NOTHING to deserve Islam terrorists, filipino's fight a daily battle to stop your racist Muslims friends from killing their people. Mindinao in the Philippines is so over run with Muslim racists that no one can go there or they will be killed. How come they don't have that problem with the Christian parts of the country?
Indonesia, France, Holland, Russia all have Muslims that kill in the name of Islam.
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aceofspades16 months, 3 weeks ago
Practices like this clearly demonstrate just how stuck in the past most countries in the middle east are
When so many are willing to support a fundie like Huckabee, who wants to rewrite the constitution under biblical guidelines, if we are not vigilant we will not be far from falling into the abyss of religious zeal
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Daylight6 months, 3 weeks ago
aniokly
No matter how much oil, and money those people have they are still 200 years behind
How do you know about witchcrafts? why don't you Google to find out the effect of which craft and why it is baned in Islam? So Muslims are 200 years behind as you are 5000 years behind civilization, you don't even know what which craft is because you blind folks don't believe in anything. Your god died for the sins of the criminals. Your so called human right activist cry foul for these criminals. You are the only people who want to protect deadly criminals. Your leaders kill millions of people but your human right activists shout and stop at that and noting happens. Why don't your tell your human right activists to bring criminal charges against Bush and his buddies who invade and kill innocent people?
Check this out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhTxh0iG04k
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Endoscopy6 months, 3 weeks ago
Well they can't point to the Salem trials now. At least at those trials the accused was allowed representation etc.
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DrBenway6 months, 3 weeks ago
Thank God we sell these people weapons, huh? Nothing bad will come of that!
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Itachirumon6 months, 3 weeks ago
Right, some "trials" in Salem Endo. If she floats she's a witch and must be drug up and killed. If she sinks she's innocent and we send a good girl to Heaven aye?!?!?!?!
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icono16 months, 3 weeks ago
Truly disgraceful for a religion that 'teaches love and compassion' to treat a woman accused of witchcraft in that manner.
But, then again, this was a female in a Muslim country.
I wonder how a male 'witch' would be treated?
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bobo-in-texas6 months, 3 weeks ago
They beacons of equality in this case.
From the last paragraph in the story.
"On November 2, Saudi Arabia executed Mustafa Ibrahim for sorcery in Riyadh. Ibrahim, an Egyptian working as a pharmacist in the northern town of `Ar'ar, was found guilty of having tried "through sorcery" to separate a married couple, according to a Ministry of Interior statement."
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icono16 months, 3 weeks ago
Humm..... thanks BoBo I misunderstood or rather miss-read that paragraph.
You are right; "They are beacons of equality".
Especially when it comes to executing witches.
And to think these are the same people that want the whole world to convert to Islam.
Jeez. I guess I can put away my garlic and charms now; the Muslim Inquisition is protecting us from witches.
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Daylight6 months, 3 weeks ago
cono1
Truly disgraceful for a religion that 'teaches love and compassion' to treat a woman accused of witchcraft in that manner.
In fact it is disgraceful for the people who don't understand what is which craft and it's effect on people. Some do it for fun but a lot of people do it that to attack and destroy others.
Check these out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpp4alDhV3E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35uLlrCcJW0
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unorthodoxic6 months, 3 weeks ago
Oh give me a break! One of the charges was that this poor woman made some man impotent! If that's witchcraft then I have a little wizard who turns the light on and off in my refrigerator and pushes the toast up from the toaster when it's just the right shade of brown.
If your god is soooo almighty, why not allow him to do the smiting? Is he so impotent that he cannot punish wrongdoers and must call on you to do it for him? Is Islam so weak that it cannot tolerate any form of criticism and must kill or attempt to kill anyone who dares to speak out against it? What I have seen of that religion makes me think that it is a religion that quakes in fear that unless everyone blindly accepts and obeys its dictates it will be exposed as a sham. Much like the "little man behind the curtain" in the Wizard of Oz.
If your message is so compelling and truthful, and if people continue to reject it, the fault is in the messenger, not in the receiver of the message.
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Daylight6 months, 3 weeks ago
RedRiverJ
Why doesn't this surprise me, or anyone for that matter? RanchHand said it, sick, what more can I say?
You are sick to believe that black magic is just for fun but in fact there are people who really want to hurt others by practicing various kind of black art. Check this out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aC_oeEEWAwY
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TOD3966 months, 3 weeks ago
If you truly know of those practicing witchcraft, then your responsibility is clear. Transport them to Saudi Arabia so that justice may be dispensed. It is your obligation to do so. Otherwise, it seems that you are on the side of those practicing witchcraft. Maybe we should drop a dime on you to Saudi Arabia as one who knowingly harbors witches. Yea, yea, that's the ticket...
Most of those responding here have a very clear assessment of what and how witchcraft is and works. You seem to feel that witchcraft is somehow explainable, and therefore, the executions in Saudi Arabia are justified. Haven't you learned anything from history? Let me bring you up to speed on a few items you may have not realized:
The earth is round.
There are no witches.
The sun does not revolve around the earth.
The 2007 Patriots are not the greatest football team ever.
Hope this helps you.
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KYRed6 months, 3 weeks ago
And that bishop in England wants Sharia law in conjunction with British law. He must have had a spell placed on him by some Islamic witch.
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bobo-in-texas6 months, 3 weeks ago
So do you think that it's OK for Muslims to execute witches?
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pcknowledge6 months, 3 weeks ago
nikkibabe
Saudi Arabia does not poke their noses into other countries because they have oil & don't need other countries for anything. They sell their oil to many countries. EU, Asia.
If & when we deveop an alternative method for oil, we can cut of all our business ties with them. In fact, we should pull our companies offices out of all the Middle East regions. When I worked for HP here I also worked on assignment in the Middle East. I was surprised to see how many of our companies have offices there. Microsoft, Sun, Intel, Amdahl etc. Why continue to do business with people whose cultural & religious practices we disagree with? We don't like them, fair enough. Why have an Embassy in every country in the Middle East? Of course if my former HP Manager read this he'd get a fit. He was looking at the bottom line & profits. Buisness, money, oil. That's the only reason we continue to maintain a relationship with them.
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pcknowledge6 months, 3 weeks ago
"The Salem Witch Trials were in 1692
That makes Saudi Arabia about 300 years behind the times"
They have oil; we don't. That gives them advancement.
Wether they have witches or not is completly irrelevant. What we should focus on is developing an alternative method for oil. So we catch up to them in that much more important aspect. Witches & what happens to them is not important. Oil is important.
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ChuckB6 months, 3 weeks ago
No one deserves conviction with out proof of guilt, and if she did commit with craft it is between her and God.
It sounds like she is guilty because they want her guilty, to have her sign something she could not read and she had no advocate to help her is obviuos she is a victim corrpution!
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brothers6 months, 3 weeks ago
Why dont they convict the people seeking the help of the so called witch. Afterall, they must have believed it witches and I am sure that many many more people do as well.
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spyder496 months, 3 weeks ago
Daylight read this:
Sharia is often referred to as Islamic law, but this is wrong, as only a small part is irrefutably based upon the core Islamic text, the Koran. A correct designation is "Muslim Law" (i.e. the law system of the Muslims), or "Islam-inspired", "Islam-derived," or even "the law system of Muslims."
This is well known to most Muslims, yet Sharia is always referred to as "based upon the Koran", hence it is the "will of God."
One sees traces of many non-Muslim juridical systems in the Sharia, such as Old Arab Bedouin law, commercial law from Mecca, agrarian law from Madina, law from the conquered countries, Roman law and Jewish law.
You should learn about your "religion" before commenting on how great it is..Notice it says from Roman and Jewish laws as well as other non religious factions..Guess you might be Jewish!
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pcknowledge6 months, 3 weeks ago
I can't comment on Sharia law because I haven't read much about it.
We don't like the countries in the Middle East. We don't like their religion, we don't like their culture. Why continue to do business with them? I hope we develop an alternative method for oil so we don't have to keep interfering in their business & sticking our noses into their business.
We also don't like the governments in Venezuela, we have a problem with Cuba. We are the most advanced country in the world. We have the best technological sector of any country in the world (of course with the help of foreign Engineers who come here). We have the best military in the world (partly comprised of men & women from foreign countries who joined the military to aquire US citizenship). We have the best medical advancements here (with the help of many Doctors from foreign countries). Well, we've got it made. Except, we depend on other countries for oil. Damm it.
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pcknowledge6 months, 3 weeks ago
"nikkibabe-actually Saudi Arabia does poke their nose in other peoples business and preach against many "Western" ideas."
Only because we meddle in their affairs. If we cut of all business ties with them, they wouldn't be interested in us either.
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jaspersneed6 months, 3 weeks ago
"Do you also agree with the Islamic call for the execution of adulterers and gays?"
Me? Hell no. The only people whose execution I support are the executioners -- of whatever religion or persuasion. Once we get rid of THEM, we can stop with all this needless executing all over the place.
Meanwhile, as for negging articles, I wouldn't be too quick to assume it necessarily indicates support for that which the article condemns. Maybe they objected to some other aspect of it.
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Socrates16 months, 3 weeks ago
It was the Saudi's, ie. the newly converted Muslims from the area who conquered lands from present day India to present day Spain.
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