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  Spadecaller9 months, 3 weeks ago

  Radical Christian rightists in the U.S. attack pluralism, in addition to gays, liberals, Jews, secularists, athiests, and other religions. While building a "dominion" of pseudo-Christian ideologists, their admitted goals are to establish itself as the single dominant force in America.

  Dominionists are a growing and powerfull sect of Christianity that is dangerous to religious freedom and politial stability. The movement has demonstrably infiltrated the pentagon and senior military personnel.

  These are 'end of worlders' or 'end of timers' who not only believe in the apocalype but see it as their dutiful mission to bring it forward.

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    CactusAnnie9 months, 3 weeks ago

    Sorry, had to sink it. Ok, I know the guy is trying to sell books but this is beyond ridiculous. Oooooh look out the dangerous Christians are going to get you, boogitty boogitty.

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      bubba29 months, 3 weeks ago

      It is NOT "beyond ridiculous"!

      Do some google-ing of John Hagee and the Christians for Jews movement. Read about their goals, from THEIR information.

      These so-called fundamentalist Christians are putting pressure on the administration to start a war with Iran.

      They believe that war with Iran will spark a total Middle East nuclear war, and they believe that THIS will bring about the Rapture and the 2nd coming of Jesus.

      They support Israel because of another piece of their "end times" puzzle. They also believe that when Israel has reclaimed their land/country, the Rapture will occur.

      The ultimate irony of all this is: the support of these fundamentalist Christians of Israel is hypocritical because they also believe that ONLY the "Christians" - those that believe Jesus is the Messiah - will be 'saved' during the Rapture. That, unfortunately, leaves out all of the Jews (unless they convert to Christianity).

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        cowboygrandpa9 months, 3 weeks ago

        bubba2:

        The end times will happen and soon. That said. For these religious fanatics to try to bring them about is satanic. They cannot bring about something God is in control of.

        Just because these events are the truth foretold, does not mean that it is God's will. Think about this. God truly loves us like no man is capable. When these events are spoken of they are a condemnation of man's acts. God is telling us of our own stupidity and moral weakness. We will go to war to destroy all that he has given us. To take it away from those he has given it too.

        For these loony tunes to try and bring about the destruction of so many for their own gain is not Godly.

        But neither is it right to deny the word of God. We are seeing the beginnings of his warnings. The falling away of many from the Church. These supposed Christians have fallen away from he teachings of Christ and lust after world control.

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          IcCaRus9 months, 3 weeks ago

          "The end times will happen and soon"

          you know this how? you do realize that people have been saying we are in the "end times" almost since the death of Jesus,right?

          so, since people who are just as sincere as you, and believe just as much as you, have been wrong about this for 2000 years, what makes you think whoever tells you this is right NOW?

          "end times" doom and gloom is just another tool used by fanatics like Hagge to spread their brand of false christianity...

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          tkyrchncs9 months, 3 weeks ago

          COWBOYGRANDPA! YOO HOO! WAKE UP! Paul believed the end of times would come in his lifetime. And every Christian generation since has said the same thing! Jesus himself said that no man knows when it will be. The point is to be prepared for it in YOUR OWN heart and soul, because the end of times comes for each of us whether we make it to the end of times for all or not.

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          Aurinkohirvi9 months, 3 weeks ago

          Anyone who believes in a god, tells us what is god's message, or how we should live, is a dangerous lunatic to me.

          Many religious people may consider their god is a god of love. Unfortunately, less people think their god is a god of tolerance.

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          AlcFilmmaker9 months, 3 weeks ago

          cowboy Gpa

          people have been saying for centuries that "the end is near. we see all the signs happening, today" and yet it never happened. any little glitch that happens w israel people start thinking that the end is here. the last war w lebanon, a lot of nuts said it would trigger the WW3,

          "all the pieces coming together" is not so:

          Israel is not made of Jews but Zionists! even the Orthodox jews say it all the time ("the Zionists have stolen the name of the jews for their own agenda. they even stole the star of David")

          The Holocaust (REAL one)never happened.

          it was a Punishment supposedly jews had to pay to god to redeem themselves

          He made them outcasts, destined to err thru the desert with no country, land or home. to redeem themselves they had to sacrifice of "6 million burning souls" a very high price to pay since it had to be done by their own hands of their own people.

          BTW HOLOCAUST=2 Latin Words

          Holos=soul

          Caust=Burning

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        Radiofreeeuropa9 months, 3 weeks ago

        It is "beyond ridiculous" but real and a threat to democracy.

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        AlcFilmmaker9 months, 3 weeks ago

        I agree w bubba2

        the "Christian conservatives" are simply a bunch of radical nuts!!

        or maybe are just dummies who have been hypnotized by their "evangelical" leaders.

        Thru religion one guy can control thousands upon thousands.

        and not only are they supporting the Zionists of Israel they are also fundraising for Israel then an Israel rep (AIPAC)comes collects the money, goes away while the Christian nuts (protestants) are left singing "Habala gila"

        Btw, I'm Catholic, a REAL Christian not a seditionist protestant.

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          IcCaRus9 months, 3 weeks ago

          "REAL Christian",eh?

          can you say "Galileo"? can you say "Inquisition"?

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            AlcFilmmaker9 months, 3 weeks ago

            Yes I can! I can also denounce our own popes. for some were not people of GOD but mere crooks who got into a position of power for their own gain.

            some sold titles for money or land and engage other illicit activities.

            sort of like the New world order people; bush 41 and chaney telling, puppeteering bush 43 to continue on their agenda, utilize OUR defense, military system and our tax money to their personal use.

            it is all deplorable. but we are speaking of specific persons not everyone or an entire system.

            I have no shame in being catholic.

            Certain people get into positions of power, trust or influence for their crooked and perhaps, evil missions.

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              IcCaRus9 months, 3 weeks ago

              plus for you! most people only want to acknowledge their religions good, and never the bad. and dont think im anti catholic or anything. the church has also done much good.

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          triizine9 months, 3 weeks ago

          It drives me nuts when one Christian denomination claims to be The True Christian Religion. I love my Catholic mother, but would never embrace her religion. If Catholicism is so righteous, why if their leaders are to take vows of poverty, are they the wealthiest denomination? Really... They're paying millions in sexual abuse lawsuits. Which brings up another issue altogether. The Holy Catholic Church doesn't seem to have a problem abusing little boys, following an oath of celibacy either.

          These priests should all be locked up and raped by big boys, but how many have been protected by your Real Christian [Catholic] leaders? Big deal, so they've been defrocked.

          There is no True Christian religion. Religion has become as perverted as the Internet and television.

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            AlcFilmmaker9 months, 3 weeks ago

            Lady you are missing the big picture:

            you and 1000s others are pointing the finger at the catholic church.

            However, I re-post: "Certain people get into positions of power, trust or influence for their crooked and perhaps, evil missions."

            The Homosexuals invaded the Cath. church. because it was an entity of TRUST. not the Cath church is made of HOMOS.

            Remember the scandal ot the 80s? the BOY SCOUTS were infested with Homos because it was also and entity of TRUST on wholesomeness, "American innocence" and the privacy of the woods, things happened for decades.

            The Homos need prosecution and excision from those entities.

            I don't blame the BOY SCOUTS or the CATH. CHURCH.

            Ur Qte: "These priests should all be locked up and raped by big boys" Those Homos were NEVER real priests. (impostors)

            and "locking them up w the big boys" be a Punishment??

            probably not, they like that stuff

            Lady YOU got your world backwards!!

            please develop a brain.

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              triizine9 months, 3 weeks ago

              Pedophiles are not homosexual. They prefer to perform sex acts on children to exert their power; it has nothing to do with orientation. They don't want sex forced on them. because that is not what they're after. They get sexual gratification from being in the position of power, not submission.

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      Spadecaller9 months, 3 weeks ago

      CactusAnnie:

      I'm not SELLING anything. Did you read it? If not why are you bashing its message? Are you in agreement with dominionist comments like these:

      "Yes, religion and politics do mix. America is a nation based on biblical principles. Christian values dominate our government. The test of those values is the Bible. Politicians who do not use the bible to guide their public and private lives do not belong in office."

      Are statements like these uncommon? Do you care to know?

      Reasonable Christians who respect the rights of other to believe as they choose should readily denounce these ideas more vehemently than anyone, because you are giving them the opportunity to allienate Americans from trusting mainstream Christianity.

      If you support these dangerous idiologues, I can then understand your desire to minimize, dismiss, or deny their existence.

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        CactusAnnie9 months, 3 weeks ago

        You didn't write it did you? You were not accused of selling anything then.

        His message? Freedom of speech for everyone except for certain Christians who don't believe what he says is right. Sorry, I think they have as much right to voice their opinions as everyone else.

        And trying to vilify them for voicing their opinions is a lot scarier than they are. "They should be silenced because they are sooooo terrifying!" Yeah, right.

        They have as much right to stand up for their beliefs as anyone else in this great land of ours does. And that, my dear, is what freedom is all about!

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          Spadecaller9 months, 3 weeks ago

          CactusAnnie:

          I didn't allege that you accused me of selling anything; but I am an honest and fairly intelligent human being capable of reading a book of value.

          I posted the story because many of us are concerned about this phenomonon. Those that are so quick to dismiss and deny these comments are of concern to me too, also.

          I am not attempting "to silence" anything or anyone. That accusation on your part is nonsense!

          No one, that I know, had even said that they should be silenced. So why even make that irrelevant claim?

          Despite my own background, I even support the right of Nazi Americans to march down my streets ... because I believe in free speech.

          I also believe in separation of church and state; these dominionists reject pluralsim. They directly state that this country is a Christian nation and would like to eliminate the separation of church and state.

          Do you support their claims about this should be a Christian nation?

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            CactusAnnie9 months, 3 weeks ago

            Hi again Caller! Please don't be getting defensive, I was talking about the article, not you.

            He can come up with all the labels and names he wants to call his target group; however, in my opinion, his premise is a crock, and that is all I have to say about this subject.

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              Spadecaller9 months, 3 weeks ago

              I'm not the one being defensive, CactusAnnie. You sunk the story and have failed to justify your actions with a valid reason. Most people who sink stories usually fail to provide a rationa explanation.

              You have been asked several questions relating to separation of church and state and if you support their premise about this being a Christian nation. Obviously, you refuse to answer those questions.

              "his premise is a crock, and that is all I have to say about this subject."

              That is not a mature or rational statement, nor is it responsible to allege that Hedges, a respectable author and journalist, merely wrote an irrelevant book just to make a dime.

              He is quite sincere and concerned about someething many of us are and some of us should be.

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                CactusAnnie9 months, 3 weeks ago

                Here dear Caller, I hope you like: ;D

                http://www.butternutsquash.net/comics/2007-06-2...

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                  hyperbola9 months, 3 weeks ago

                  Well Annie, our christian fundamentalists have helped kill millions of people all around the world - even other christians. They have been especially active in seeing that America does not criticize the robbing, killing and expulsion of christians in Palestine. You support these kinds of crimes against humanity?

                  Israel's Purging of Palestinian Christians

                  http://www.antiwar.com/cook/?articleid=10297

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                    Endoscopy9 months, 3 weeks ago

                    You must be talking about Zionists again aren't you?

                    You and the writer of this book love to say that Christians are EVIL. They want to shut down everything you stand for. They are intolerant. You and the author need to look in a mirror. Much of the far left rhetoric is INTOLERANT of Christians and use hate speech against them. Anything a Christian stands for is to be repudiated and ridiculed. Who is intolerant of who? At least he weasel words about a select small group.

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                      tkyrchncs9 months, 3 weeks ago

                      If you call yourself a Christian and demonstrate to me by your words or actions anything other than the love Love LOVE of God and neighbor commanded by Jesus I will call you on it every time. And I'm calling you on it, Endo. Turn the other cheek. Bless those who spitefully use you. Blessed are those who are persecuted for My name's sake. And if you try to force your religious belief on me or others, whatever it may be, I will resist you to any extent necessary, because it is UN-AMERICAN and UN-CHRISTIAN. Merry Christmas!

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                      AlcFilmmaker9 months, 3 weeks ago

                      Endoscopy, YOU are all confused as well.

                      Picture this:

                      in One camp we have:

                      Leftists

                      Democrats

                      Catholics

                      on the other CAMP:

                      Right wingers, (regular, extreme, radical)

                      Republicans.

                      Seditionist Christians:(all non-catholics [protestants])

                      ----------...

                      Conclusion:

                      *Right wingers are usually RACISTS Maggots

                      *Republicans are mostly RACISTS (think "R" for Racists)

                      (transplanted into the Republican party via the Dixiecrats from the Democratic party (starting in 1948 democratic convention) EXODUS of racist maggots, since DEMS were moving towards Civil rights and speaking of the rights of minorities)

                      *Protestant (psudo-Christian seditionists)(broke away as rebels who don't want to follow rules and want to do what THEY want and ONLY for their personal benefit.

                      ----------...

                      Don't confuse REAL Christians(Catholics) with seditionists AKA:

                      "protestants" "evangelicals" "pseudo-Christians"

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                  Spadecaller9 months, 3 weeks ago

                  Truly comical ...indeed.

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                  Shadowolf9 months, 3 weeks ago

                  Gotta admit; that one's cute...wanna bet on how many 'blind-negged' ya???

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                TOD3969 months, 3 weeks ago

                I also sunk the story because this guy is just another person trying to get rich by putting out controversial garbage. I listened to his interview and found that he uses the same generlization technique that Spadecaller uses.

                He stated that he interviewed several followers and they all had one thing in common: That they were poor, desparate, and ripe for the brainwashing that being a Christian does to a person. I am a Christian. I am not poor, nor am I desparate. Most of the people I know that are Christians are not poor or desparate. Yet here he is making these accusations and then using that as a basis for his argument.

                So in conclusion, he is trying to make money off of poor uneducated people who will buy his book. So Spade, guess you own a copy, huh?

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                  Candida9 months, 3 weeks ago

                  TOD396: "I am not poor, nor am I desparate."

                  Are you a follower of Hagee? I'm sure that not even all his followers are poor and uneducated. All Hedges was trying to say is that poor and uneducated people are easy prey for charismatic and manipulative preachers.

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                  "he is trying to make money off of poor uneducated people who will buy his book."

                  I doubt that he is counting on becoming rich by selling his book to the the poor and uneducated. Uneducated people are not known for reading a lot of books. They tend to read only The Book, if that.

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              Radiofreeeuropa9 months, 3 weeks ago

              Cactus, no one is saying these mental midgets can't speak their mind, but organizing religion as a political group is contrary to the interests of democracy. They can spew whatever crappage they might as can nazis, kkkers etc. but if they ACT, That is another matter.

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                tkyrchncs9 months, 3 weeks ago

                Most of them vote, RFE. How you gonna stop that?

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                  AlcFilmmaker9 months, 3 weeks ago

                  tkyrchncs

                  Well, that is definitely changing.

                  even some right winger, evangelicals, protestants are switching parties or becoming neutral.

                  the hypocrisy of the rightous...I mean.. right wingers, republicans is unbearable: Criminals, homosexuals, scammers,etc.

                  scandal after new scandal every week on the news in violation of every thing the "Christian values" stand for

                  (and voted for).

                  "Christian values" is how the Protestants (psudo-Christian seditionists) describe their agenda.

                  REFER to my earlier posting on "Camps"

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            slate9 months, 3 weeks ago

            Spade

            "No one, that I know, had even said that they should be silenced. So why even make that irrelevant claim?"

            No? what about one of your other threads where one of your buds stated something about putting a bullet in their heads, to which you ;)!

            That was pretty much exactly what was inferred,

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              tkyrchncs9 months, 3 weeks ago

              That was me, slate. They have the right to speak their minds, and vote their consciences, like everyone else, but THAT IS ALL. They need to take a look at the whole Book they espouse, and exercise a bit of human decency and decorum. Rifle at the ready, either way.

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          Bacalao9 months, 3 weeks ago

          Annie:

          I am all for the freedom of speech. I am also for the girding against speech that is against me and my nation. No I don't wish to silence them, I wish to have their speech exposed for what it is.

          P.s. I accidentally gave you a pos. I didn't want to give you a rating either way.

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          kedirian9 months, 3 weeks ago

          Those "Christians" surely have the right to say what they want. There is a world of difference between "saying" and by hook or by crook enforcing their beliefs on those who do not want to be convinced because they have their own, clearer view of mankind in this world.

          Indeed, christians are as prickly as a cactus when challenged on some of their bizarre beliefs...

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            earthlingerer9 months, 3 weeks ago

            On one hand, they're like the Taliban, with the whole muslim religion IS politics, but on the other hand, their beliefs go against the US Constitution, making them outright traitors and seditionists.

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              tkyrchncs9 months, 3 weeks ago

              God help me, here I go. It isn't unconstitutional or seditious or traitorous to advocate the overthrow of our government by peaceful means. The Constitution even outlines the rules.

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        slate9 months, 3 weeks ago

        I don't go to Church and have little use for religions for the most part, though I do believe in a Diety. The question I have is,,,,,

        Why can't Christians have the views they do and want their values put forth by those they vote for? Isn't that why everyone votes for someone, to have their views put forth?

        That goes for every special interest group from, ethnic groups, the gay lobby, the atheist, the far left and the far right.

        I agree with some things but not all things, however they all have the right to try and push the country in the direction they are comfortable with. Why do you think the big battle for control of the presidency and congress has risen to such a high level this time?

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          slate9 months, 3 weeks ago

          Both sides see the nation in a different light and they both are trying to get the vote out to move the country in the direction they feel is correct.

          Some Christians see many of the secular idea to be as dangerous as you and the seculars see the right wing Christians. You have the right to feel that way, and the Christians do as well.

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            Candida9 months, 3 weeks ago

            Yes, they do have the right to express whatever they believe in, to vote, and to push the government in the direction they feel comfortable with.

            I guess they seem really dangerous because they want to exclude, suppress, and disenfranchise others. I also find their promotion of Armageddon a real problem. They are just a bit too bloodthirsty for my taste. I wouldn't want to silence them, but as someone has already said, their agenda has to be exposed so everyone can make up his/her mind seeing both sides of the coin. It would perhaps make it a bit more difficult for them to exploit people's desperation.

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              Bkumm9 months, 3 weeks ago

              Never take for granted the desperation of someone grasping for that most elusive of human emotions...hope.

              Reason doesn't enter into it when one sees everything one has slipping away and someone holds you out a life preserver, even if by taking that life preserver you give up the reason to live.

              This is a war to the knife for the soul of the United States and we'd better wake up to it.

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          tkyrchncs9 months, 3 weeks ago

          I asked you in another thread, slate, if you were Christian, and you responded "yes", my brother.

          Bkumm, I really hope you're wrong, and reason and tolerance can prevail peacefully, but my knife is sharp.

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            AlcFilmmaker9 months, 3 weeks ago

            "but my knife is sharp."

            ooh! that sounds like a deadly threat!

            are YOU making death threats at Bkumm??

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              tkyrchncs9 months, 3 weeks ago

              Is that how it seems to you? Ask Bkumm if he feels threatened by me.

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      jordan119 months, 3 weeks ago

      Here's something to add to what you're trying to get across.

      http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2007/12/eva...

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        jordan119 months, 3 weeks ago

        Here's something to add to what you're trying to get across.

        http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2007/12/eva...

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        jordan119 months, 3 weeks ago

        Here's something to add to what you're trying to get across.

        http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2007/12/eva...

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          acdnc9 months, 3 weeks ago

          jordan11, great link!

          OMG! Y'all have got to see this link...does the name Christian Airfoce Academy warm your hearts? Yikes!

          A.

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        Aurinkohirvi9 months, 3 weeks ago

        To a foreigner, it's strange to listen how often U.S. presidents use the word "God". It's not different than listening to an ayatollah.

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          AlcFilmmaker9 months, 3 weeks ago

          Aurinkohirvi:

          No. actually you are hearing fake ******!

          they are preaching to a voting group. they say whatever it takes to get them elected. also that target group is the "christian values" right wingers which is code word for "white supremacy agenda" It is preached by seditionists(pseudo Christians)

          So, Mr. Foreigner, next time you hear "GOD" in American politics, just think "no new taxes! freedom of speech, liberty and justice for all, etc. etc."

          ALL POLITICAL BULLS*HT WORDS

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      bubba29 months, 3 weeks ago

      You can go to pbs.org and find a story about all this that aired on the Bill Moyers Journal program a couple of months ago. I watched that - you see the Hagee followers "in action" and you hear what they say about all this.

      It is NOT "made up" ...

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        Candida9 months, 3 weeks ago

        "BILL MOYERS: From his reading of the Bible he lays out a scenario predicting that if Israel and America attack Iran, Russia and its allies â;; including Iran â;; will attack Israel, triggering Ezekiel's War. God will crush the invading forces as - quote - "he crushed Pharaoh, Haman, and Hitler so that Israel and the world 'shall know that I am the Lord.'" says John Hagee, the battle of Armageddon will follow."

        http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/10052007/tran...

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        Klarissa9 months, 3 weeks ago

        Bill Moyers is as far left and as bashing those who don't agree with him as anyone can be, and on "public" television.

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          bubba29 months, 3 weeks ago

          There was no "bashing" by Bill Moyers. He didn't have to say much of anything. The video of Hagee and his 'followers' is more then enough evidence of their 'crusade'.

          You just don't like Bill Moyers. So, instead of reading the story, you name-call Bill Moyers. Nice work, great ignorance ...

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          Candida9 months, 3 weeks ago

          Klarissa, calling Bill Moyers far left is neither here nor there, and if he is bashing anyone in that program, why don't you point out where. Has he stated anything in it that is untrue?

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            Radiofreeeuropa9 months, 3 weeks ago

            Bill Moyers is an excellent reporter. Is anyone that isn't HEIL BUSHCO ing a far leftist? Ans. yes.

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            Ciera-Marie9 months, 3 weeks ago

            Candida:

            I meant to give you a positive for this comment.

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              Candida9 months, 3 weeks ago

              I knew. Thanks.

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        AlcFilmmaker9 months, 3 weeks ago

        Hey Bubba2

        I just noticed your upside down REPUBLICAN PARTY LOGO!!

        lol, ROTFL!!!

        YOU ARE one of the "enlightened" ones

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          tkyrchncs9 months, 3 weeks ago

          It is a cool avatar, isn't it?

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      jordan119 months, 3 weeks ago

      Miss Annie: Time to educate yourself. This is very serious, and our govt. is being used by the wacky 'end times' believers to manipulate policy in the middle east.

      http://www.democracynow.org/2006/8/15/christian...

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        hyperbola9 months, 3 weeks ago

        What is particularly repugnant is that they help to rob, kill or expel other christians.

        The Challenge Of Christian Zionism

        The movement of Christian Zionism provides a challenge

        and an embarrassment to Palestinian Christians

        at a number of crucial levels, requiring us to address

        this issue theologically, politically, and existentially. It raises for us a number of issues that must be addressed....

        http://www.sabeel.org/documents/cs32.pdf

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    augustine9749 months, 3 weeks ago

    Though a pathalogic lier, Bush claims to be "Born Again". To prove it he claims "God" told him to invade Iraq...You are not scared by insanity like that? Bush is the most dangerous "Christian" on the face of the earth, and the Republican Party is goose-stepping behind him.

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      cowboygrandpa9 months, 3 weeks ago

      CA:

      I won't vote for or against this story. I agree with you that there are certin things this author claims that are against my beliefs. He has just enough truth sprinkled in with his other facts to make it sound plausible.

      That said. There are some truths in what he said. There are some in the extreme right whose Christianity is dominated by hatred of all except the ones who are like them.

      I think this piece is equally hard for either side to defend.

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        Bkumm9 months, 3 weeks ago

        I won't disagree with you on that. This is a hard issue, but we MUST face it.

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        Spadecaller9 months, 3 weeks ago

        If we are waiting for someone to give us a perfect interpretation of the grave troubles facing this nation, we will have to rely on devine intervention.

        Perhaps God would like us to use our "free wills' to learn how to live with each other in peace.

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          cowboygrandpa9 months, 3 weeks ago

          Spadecaller:

          One of the signs of the end times is for everyone to cry out for peace. They will be so desperate for it they will be ready to go along with the devil to make peace. I see this time getting here soon. More war and blood spilled world wide will hasten the coming of the end times.

          We are starting to see the financial woes that are coming, the famines have been happening as well as the droughts. The increase in storms and natural disasters all these are foretold.

          Watch for the one ruler in the world that all turn to. Beware of the one who comes in the name of light bearing darkness. For he is truly a man of evil bent on the destruction of the Jews with whom he will make a false covenant. Allowing them to rebuild the temple only to enter into the Holy of Holies seat himself and declare himself God to be worshipped.

          You may not believe this. But watch and if it happens flee. For it is the anti-christ.

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            Candida9 months, 3 weeks ago

            I have a solution. We can avoid the end of times if we all turn atheists. Then there will be no danger of anybody worshiping anybody else and the Antichrist would have no chance to declare himself God to be worshiped.

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              Natureboy9 months, 3 weeks ago

              But, maybe, just maybe, and I am going out on a limb here, we are talking about the two thousand year old superstitious ravings of a bunch of primitive nomads and it is purely ridiculous to worry about their obscure prognostications one way or another.

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                earthlingerer9 months, 3 weeks ago

                Much more than two thousand... that was jesus, they weren't nomads.

                You're thinking of the story book of rape, incest, slavery and generally stupid people going delirious, all written up as a basis of "religion".

                I feel sorry for anyone who finds any "truth" in the old testament.

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            Candida9 months, 3 weeks ago

            cowboygrandpa, on a more serious note: only a third of the world's population are followers of the New Testament. According to your beliefs, will the other two thirds accept the Antichrist as God? Why would they do so when they don't accept Jesus as God?

            "Religions: Christians 33.03% (of which Roman Catholics 17.33%, Protestants 5.8%, Orthodox 3.42%, Anglicans 1.23%), Muslims 20.12%, Hindus 13.34%, Buddhists 5.89%, Sikhs 0.39%, Jews 0.23%, other religions 12.61%, non-religious 12.03%, atheists 2.36% (2004 est.)"

            https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-wo...

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              cowboygrandpa9 months, 3 weeks ago

              Candida:

              The world is always searching for signs and wonders. The anti-christ will be able to "so called" miracles like call fire down from the sky. He will survive an attack that will leave him as seemingly dead. Yet he will come back to life. Many will think he is the Christ for all the good he will seem to do. None will be able to make war with him. He will deny Cristianity as that would not allow him to be the Christ. This world is looking for a leader to lead them. They have not accepted the ways of life. They seek to have things their way. At first this leader will seem good until he declares war on all who will not receive his mark.

              I have nothing to gain by saying these things except to try to save even one person from the coming destruction. I have no agenda as I am not rich, not powerful, not seeking office, not seeking to control anyone-Jesus is my master-so I have nothing personal to gain. Just the gift that Christ offers all.

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                Candida9 months, 3 weeks ago

                You do sound sincere, but I think you are mistaken. I don't think the world is looking for a leader. People simply want to live their lives. All I wish for is a little less greed and a little more cooperation; definitely not a leader of any sort. We already have too many leaders and too many followers. We should try to increase the number of thinkers.

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                earthlingerer9 months, 3 weeks ago

                Jesus loves gay people.

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                  cowboygrandpa9 months, 3 weeks ago

                  Jesus loves all people as he died for everyones sins. Even for those who don't believe. I have no hatred for those who disagree. Just sadness.

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      mesodude9 months, 3 weeks ago

      You helped get George Bush elected twice. Nuff said...

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      BravoSierra9 months, 3 weeks ago

      The social psychology research on such "Christians" is that they are exclusionary, intollerant, hostile, harsh, judgmental,have extra-punitive superegos, etc.

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      Shadowolf9 months, 3 weeks ago

      PROVE IT,SC!!!

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        Radiofreeeuropa9 months, 3 weeks ago

        Yeah I saw him with the Church Lady on SNL....

        LOL

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        Shadowolf9 months, 3 weeks ago

        ...that's the NeoConArtist way, not the liberals...you may now blow your hate out of the orifice of your choice...

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      Klarissa9 months, 3 weeks ago

      these people are one tenth of one tenth of the American people. Who cares. Just ignore them, all he wantst is publicity like this one.

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        tkyrchncs9 months, 3 weeks ago

        You know, there are not many pumas around, either, but they are dangerous, and sometimes attack and kill people, so if you see one, it is prudent to be cautious and watchful, and prepared to take action as necessary.

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  Spadecaller9 months, 3 weeks ago

  "Yes, religion and politics do mix. America is a nation based on biblical principles. Christian values dominate our government. The test of those values is the Bible. Politicians who do not use the bible to guide their public and private lives do not belong in office." LaHaye

  These kinds of remarks are typical of these people. They have a large following and are backed by corporate wealth and power.

  I support their right to believe anything they want to, and I support their freedom of speech.

  But if this movement is not exposed for what it is, the reprucussions can be disasterous.

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