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    muhairi81 year ago

    This is a verse from the Holy koran about this subject:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_O6KLSsh2Qw

    If you have any question on Islam you're most welcome to ask, and I ask God to help me answer your questions.

    Amen

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    muhairi81 year ago

    To all Muslims in this website.... where is our Islamic teachings in what you're doing???

    God told us:

    [16:125] You shall invite to the path of your Lord with wisdom and kind enlightenment, and debate with them in the best possible manner. Your Lord knows best who has strayed from His path, and He knows best who are the guided ones.

    You can't invite people to Islam by saying such things it is not right, Islam is not for you or me only it is for the whole world.

    So we as Muslims must follow God:

    [3:64] Say, "O followers of the scripture, let us come to a logical agreement between us and you: that we shall not worship except GOD; that we never set up any idols besides Him, nor set up any human beings as lords beside GOD." If they turn away, say, "Bear witness that we are submitters.

    and don't forget :

    [109:6] "To you is your religion, and to me is my religion."

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      muhairi81 year ago

      Let me explain to you who is "Allah"?

      Allah it is an Arabic word for God, it is the same God as the Christians and the Jews worship, many people think that "Allah" or God is the Moon god of the pre-islamic Arabs. The pre-islamic Arabs used to worship 360 idols but non of them is called "Allah" the believed in "Allah" as the creator of everything but why did they have 360 idols beside him, let me tell you. They thought that these 360 idols is a way to reach God "Allah" so when they die these 360 idols will ask God "Allah" forgiveness. So you must under stand this God "Allah" was never an idol nor he was the Moon God.

      If anyone have any prove that he was please provide it, but it must be from an Islamic reference I'm sorry to tell you that you will find many website talking about this subject but without any Islamic prove.

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      muhairi81 year ago

      About the matter of Jesus (PBUH) as the son of God, yes we as Muslims don't believe in that as you can see God told us through the Koran:

      [19:88] They said, "The Most Gracious has begotten a son"!

      [19:89] You have uttered a gross blasphemy.

      [19:90] The heavens are about to shatter, the earth is about to tear asunder, and the mountains are about to crumble.

      [19:91] Because they claim that the Most Gracious has begotten a son.

      [19:92] It is not befitting the Most Gracious that He should beget a son.

      [19:93] Every single one in the heavens and the earth is a servant of the Most Gracious.

      [19:94] He has encompassed them, and has counted them one by one.

      [19:95] All of them will come before Him on the Day of Resurrection as individuals.

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      muhairi81 year ago

      "The holy Koran says I could KILL you for saying that. We expect a Muslim flag to fly over the White House in the near future. It will be the END of Christianity in America."

      We as Muslims don't believe in violence:

      [2:191] You may kill those who wage war against you, and you may evict them whence they evicted you. Oppression is worse than murder. Do not fight them at the Sacred Masjid, unless they attack you therein. If they attack you, you may kill them. This is the just retribution for those disbelievers.

      As everyone can see God is telling us to defend or selves, I know many Muslims understand some of these verses as a command to kill everyone (Osama and his followers) but it is wrong we can defend or selves not kill everyone we see just because he does not follow our religion.

      If anyone has any prove against what I'm saying please provide it either from the Holy Koran or Hadith.

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          muhairi81 year ago

          I totally agree with you my brother and as I said this is the nature of the human whether he is a Muslim or Christan or Jew we as people we are not perfect many of us make mistakes,God is the only perfect thing, but if few people from one religion did something wrong we can't say that all of that religion is wrong, It won't be right.

          "You're as bad as some Christians" I'm a Muslim but i will follow the teaching of the Islam, Christianity and Judaism and forgive you.

          Thank you

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  flyrod1 year ago

  Hmac, I would tell you that there is a God, but I would also tell you that Chick is NOT His spokesman. What a load of c***. All I can say is that ALL religious groups seem to have a right and a left. Tolerance and Love seems to be the road to peace.

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      flyrod1 year ago

      Hmac, You seem to have lots of questions and not a lot of answers. I've found that most agnostics are searching and have lots of unanswered questions. The answer is pretty simple, but it would seem you are not ready to accept it yet.

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          flyrod1 year ago

          Oh I see you're the conscience of the religous world. Or maybe you think you are god and we should be prepared for your "answers". Either way sounds like you're searching.

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            ekklesiawarrior1 year ago

            u hit nail on head

            SEARCHING all right

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                Redneck1 year ago

                So are you satisfied with him?

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                    Redneck1 year ago

                    Just wondering! Does this god have a name? Is it "myself?"

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                        Redneck1 year ago

                        start a new thread called "nature" so we can discuss it without long lines of text going d o w n the page. :-)

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    ekklesiawarrior1 year ago

    and you are tolerant? :D

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  LOCKNLOAD1 year ago

  .....I guess ALAH is for the Muslims...OK...Jesus Christ is for the Christians...OK...the Jews are still awaiting their Messiah...OK...as for these here Muslims who think they are going to wipe out our White House [ USA] with their 'religion of Murder, Inc'.....they are in for a RUDE AWAKING, I kid you naught you friggin/lousy dirtbags!!!....Semper Fi, Mac

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      LOCKNLOAD1 year ago

      ....Hey There....we live in Caesar's World here on earth....do some history reading....war will always be prevalent on earth...prepare for war is the lesson of survival...simple as that...we are stained with that concept from birth!!

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          ekklesiawarrior1 year ago

          The BIBLE predicts as when a civilization shout 'PEACE"

          sudden destruction will arrive.

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          LOCKNLOAD1 year ago

          ...LOL...LOL...

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        ekklesiawarrior1 year ago

        U are right - LOCKNLOAD

        most here have head in sand with blessed assurance lifted high in the skies

        pay day is about to arrive upon Liberals in AMERICA

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          LOCKNLOAD1 year ago

          ......Thx......Semper Fi....

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        AbuAmirah1 year ago

        You must be on the samne roids as Barry Bonds. We are free people who have been blessed by the creator, whichever name one calls him, with free will. Humanity, whenever it chooses could decide to end wars. I mean look at the adherents to Jainism. That's the one religion that is a religion of peace. Hell, they literally wouldn't hurt a fly

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  Hobe1 year ago

  Allah Had No Son'

  Actually, there are many Rumors that indicate this may Not be a fact...

  The Islamic Muslim terrorists are very Misguided to say the least... The so-called iemoose's may want to re-read the Koran, it's not logical that any religion preaches Killing innocent women and Children should Exist in a Civilized World..

  In any case it's all Bushe's Fault....

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    ekklesiawarrior1 year ago

    The point of the title and message:

    - Allah Had No Son

    Allah is indeed in history based on polytheism, with worship of inanimate objects, 'the deity' 'moon god'.

    The Jewish Scriptures for which Christians embrace show a personal relationship with God.

    ''The LORD is my shepherd'

    'The LORD delivers' Yeshua, Jesus

    'The LORD is my healer'

    are just a few of the titles showing a personal relationship, with our Creator God.

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    AbuAmirah1 year ago

    You need to get off the ranch. The methane, from the cow chips, are eating away at your brain. NO religion should be in the public sphere and I'm a Muslim saying that. I don't want my kids learning about any religion, unless its taught a literature. You want your kids to pray at school, send them to a school that shares your faith. Oh and as far as Jihad goes, the Koran itself says the greatest Jihad is the one where a person fights against his or her basest instincts, like killing other people.

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      lvrofwolves1 year ago

      IF the Koran teaches those things, (I admit I don't know anything about the Koran) then why is it we see only the violent muslims? why don't all the good muslims, which I assume should be the biggest majority , so they say, why aren't they standing up against those muslims that are giving the oh so peacefull and tolerant muslims?? why don't we see them???

      I would LOVE to see that.

      Yes we have those few violent hate filled Christians, but our laws against physical violence are pretty well enforced. Why does it seem as tho Muslims have no laws that are enforced against that?

      I personally do not know any Muslims, only what I see and read, if they are shown in a bad light, I would think there would be millions standing up against the bad, to show everyone the good.

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          lvrofwolves1 year ago

          Well I agree to a point, but like I said, yes we have our extremist as well, BUT we also have laws against physical violence, and it's enforced pretty well. We have freedom of speach, that's why that waste of a human being like Phelps and his family can say the things they do.

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        AbuAmirah1 year ago

        Well, if you're not seeing it then either you're myopic or you don't get out much. There have been countles people and organizations that have come out and denounced this evil. There have been people who have ratted out their fellow Muslims, to save lives. Hell, last month, in the L.A. times, a read an article about a devout Muslim who is a memnber of France's anti-terrorism police. Then there's this story that I saw on Good Morning America about this Navy Seal who was being hunted by the Taliban. Dude ended up in this villiage and the people there hid him until he was well enough roll on his own.

        We're starting to step up to the plate, albeit at a glacier's pace. I just wish that people would be so quick to label things Islamic. I mean the IRA weren't refered to as Catholic extremist or the Tamil Tigers Buddhist terrorists. Remember we don't have a monopoly on terror

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          lvrofwolves1 year ago

          uh huh! well maybe I was myopic, but now I think I have a pretty good grip on this, feel free to correct me if I'm still wrong.

          What we call terrorism and suicide bombers, Muslims call martyrdom. It is their wish to die as martyrs, instantly go to heaven, what better show of a gift to 'god' then dying as a martyr. yeah...we call that terrorism and suicide bombers.

          In the history of man you don't have a monopoly on terroism, but for quite awhile recently Islam sure does.

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  Redneck1 year ago

  ekklesiawarrior Just a question. Have you check out the facts cited in this tract? You can answer me directly by private message.

  Thanks,

  Redneck

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    ekklesiawarrior1 year ago

    Redneck, apply some cool water to cool down :-)

    Never once did we contend all the facts of any article we submit to Netscape are agreed with. This includes NEWS, SCIENCE and RELIGION.

    The thread of this Submission

    -Allah Had No Son-

    Many have missed the whole playing field in the comment area. At the present day within England, the laws have been made such since 1997 by the Labor Government, you can not speak out against nor challenge Islam.

    Yet Islam has destroyed culture after culture in recent times, Pakistan, Indonesia, Thailand for starters.

    MANY in BRITAIN have woken up. These see now that the Koran bears a message that is not of Peace.

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      Redneck1 year ago

      No need for me to cool down. :-) Hey I thought the tract was good! And I was not challenging any of it. I am just curious.

      Just provoking thought then? :-) Well I would be interested in the background. I have read more recently about Islam and as a student would like to understand it a little more to be able to speak intelligently to Moslems.

      I agree that people in our society must wake up and smell the coffee. Islam is on the move. People complain about Christians asserting their moral values in the marketplace and in politics! Other groups, some religious and some not asserting their values and pushing their "culture" into our American Culture. If they gain more ground all will rue the day! I wonder at the education and agenda of some people sometimes. Where do they think our culture originated from anyway? Europe was Christian before colonization of the Americas. Many state charters and actions reveal a Christian faith influencing the founding Fathers!!

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  Redneck1 year ago

  Nature: wikipedia: Nature, in the broadest sense, is equivalent to the natural world, physical universe, material world or material universe.

  IMHO "nature" is the structure of the material universe and its laws. Has "nature" created itself and formed laws which govern it?

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      Redneck1 year ago

      From your posts it appears you reject "religion" and particularly Judeo-Christian religion. The Bible says God has not abandoned creation nor man. It may seem that way but He is involved according to His Divine Law and His nature. He has a purpose which will be worked out and finished. His dealing with man is part of and facilitates His purpose. Many find it hard to comprehend but it is revealed in the Bible. God: "your thoughts are not My thoughts, nor My ways your ways."

      The prophet Isaiah chapters forty through forty-eight said God is One who can tell you about the reason and the way things began. Jehovah does that in Genesis. But further He is God because He also reveals the future and relates it to our present. He has not hidden either His methods nor His Purpose.

      Israel recorded supernatural intervention and prophesied along with Jeremiah and Ezekiel and other prophets things which are occuring today and will perhaps finalize during my lifetime.

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          ekklesiawarrior1 year ago

          It is obvious it yourself whom believes in fiction.

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              Redneck1 year ago

              In First Corinthians chapters 2-4 Paul addressed this issue. He said that only spiritually sensitive people can ever truly understand or "interpret" the mysteries of God. Thus the Bible is a closed book to all who will not submit to its Author.

              Jesus said to the Pharisees and scribes they could not determine whether or not His doctrine was from the Father or not was because they did not know the Father. Quote: "If any man will do the will of the Father he will know if My doctrine is of the Father or not."

              The Bible is not open merely to the mind of man. Jesus said, "My words are Spirit and Life (John 6:63)." The spirit of man receives the Spirit and thus the Words of God. The mind alone cannot comprehend the thoughts of God. It is confusing to you because you have not submitted to Him who is the Author and the Interpreter.

              con't.

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                Redneck1 year ago

                Con't.

                Christians are "organized religion" because Jesus set it up that way. Only thru the Body of Christ all believers working together will His Eternal Plan be realized.

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                    Redneck1 year ago

                    Then again you cannot see it. The Body of Christ is not strictly an organization nor a group which holds to a statement of tenets of faith. I am not saying that all the organization and structure is doing what God intends. But there is a unity among believers that is essential. As to what constitutes what is a "true" Christian that is clear. There are those who claim to be true Christians who are merely opportunists and religious and are not truly believers according to the Bible or the general consensus of believers. There were some differences of opinion among the first century disciples the Apostles had to correct. There will always be some who hold to errors in doctrine. But true Christians know what is essential and agree upon that OR they are not true Christians.

                    I travel among Christians the world over and those whom I meet are true believers in Jesus Christ as the New Testament declares and reveals Him. There is a universal unity that can be detected.

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                        Redneck1 year ago

                        Hey well there were carnal Christians at Corinth too and Paul rebuked them. But there is a clear test as to whether one is a Christian.

                        But we were speaking about the truth and accuracy of the Bible not whether disciples are obeying it or not. It is an open book to those who will do His will. Romans 12:1-2 says one must submit to the Lordship of Jesus giving over one's whole self and then the will of God can be known. That is the doorway and there is no other. One must be willing to do the will of God before it can be known.

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  flyrod1 year ago

  Man, I go away for awhile and you folks run back out into left field. No wonder we can't stop this war.........

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  Melbatross71 year ago

  A statement like that will bring about the destruction of the ones claiming the statement. God had/has a Son - end of discussion. God states also He will destroy those that reject Him. The only reason the Islamic extremists are a problem is because of the USA's eroding morality. God is using them to wake or bring to their knees the people of America. Either way no-one will stop Christianity, that is an impossibility. If God allows the Islamics to destabilize and create havoc within the Americas they will need to fear for their lives from Europe and Asia. In history every nation used to conquer His people for punishment over stepped their purpose and arrogantly brought about their own destruction because of their cruelties.

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    cantfoolme1 year ago

    God does not have a son as god does not exist. Now that is the end of story.

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      Melbatross71 year ago

      cantfoolme - you obviously haven't read the Bible

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        cantfoolme1 year ago

        There is a lot of fiction and mythology that i have not read.

        I will own up to not having read the Bible from cover to cover but having been brought up as a christian i did have most of it (the nice bits) read to me and i did attend Religious study classes. So i think i am qualified to make comment. May i ask if you have read the Quran or Chairman Mao's Little Red Book?

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          Melbatross71 year ago

          Parts of the Quran- Haven't read Mao's little red book. May I ask why ?

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            cantfoolme1 year ago

            For the same reason why you asked me if i had read the bible.

            My point is that neither you (i am guessing) nor i have read Mein Kampf by a certain Adolph Hitler but i am sure both of us know enough about what he believed in to form a decision that he and his ideals were yotally evil and abhorrent.

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              Melbatross71 year ago

              I've read parts of it. His ideal was that he set himself up as Gods' chosen one to introduce "The Millenium" and establish world peace making the way for Christ to return. Understanding the Bible makes it easier to understand the world as a whole, as it affects all humanity for all time. The books that famous people write are only their perspectives with their discoveries and delusions. You can't base your life on theirs and succeed, yet they are good educational examples of attempts at life.

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      Melbatross71 year ago

      HMAC - FYI I don't watch televangelism or religious channels except for the odd historically based documentary.

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          Melbatross71 year ago

          You sound like the frog in the frying pan - half baked.

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  cantfoolme1 year ago

  This story is a joke. Please tell me it is a joke. I would love to see a Moslem response to it. I was half expecting the last picture to have Dawkins, Hitchens and Harris walk in and relate the actual truth by telling them they are all deluded.

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  LOCKNLOAD1 year ago

  ...Are YOU talking to me??...if YOU are, your words are irrelavent to me...I could care less what you say; afterall, YOU knocked on my door first...seems I hit a nerve in a 'sage' YOU think you are....I doubt everything about your errant perspective of people in here...of which YOU know nothing about....GOD bless YOU, go in peace and try and have a nice day, my man.....LOL

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  Melbatross71 year ago

  You obviously haven't read the Bible.

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