A Boost for the Book of Jeremiah »
Posted by: zaph22 1 year, 2 months ago112 Comments Report this Story
By confirming the historical accuracy of a tiny detail, a two-inch clay tablet long in the possession of the British Museum has given ammunition to those who believe that the Bible ââ;¬" specifically, in this case, the book of the prophet Jeremiah ââ;¬" is history. That, at least, is
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Silverghost1 year, 2 months ago
Great find Zaph! One more corroborative piece & more to come.
Quite some time ago, 2 British archaeologists set out to prove the Bible wrong. Through their discoveries, they both separately came to the conclusion that the Bible was true & historically accurate.
No serious archaeological effort has ever brought doubt to the veracity of God's Holy Word. -Rev. S
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Bkumm1 year, 2 months ago
Um, what are you talking about? Have they found the Garden of Eden? Nope, despite serious efforts to find it. Ark of the Covenant? Just in movies.
Some historical events in the Bible have been 'proved' in that we know they took place. But, that doesn't have anything to do with god's holy word. You show me a serious archaeological effort that has verified the veracity of the 'word of god'. Just one.
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AmericanIdiot1 year, 2 months ago
You must be kidding about the Garden of Eden?
Are you familiar with the book of Genesis?
The Garden of Eden is not a place people can go to - it is close to the physical presence of God, so he sees all and talks directly with the inhabitants,
and it is guarded by angels with fiery swords.
And it might be a metaphor.
Did you think it was a place on Earth?
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Daylight1 year, 2 months ago
Silverghost
Hi, Silverghost nice to have you back after a very long time, and I have a few surprises for you.
This is what George Bernard Shaw said about the Bible, "the Most dangerous book on earth, keep it under lock and key."
Not only does the content of the Old Testament exclude,its claim to authenticity as the word of God but in the first five books, Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy there are more than 700 statements which prove not only that God is not the author of these books, but that even Moses himself had no hand in them, a random glance shows that:
"And the Lord said unto Moses, Away get thee down..." And Moses said unto the Lord, people cannot come..."
Could Moses have been a contributor to his own obituary before his demise? (Deuteronomy, 34:5-10)
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infidell2space1 year, 2 months ago
You are joking, right? The evidence for the bible is incredibly skimpy; while the evidence for evolution is absolutely overwhelming. You "Americanidiot" need to take some collage courses in the evolutionary / Biological sciences. You "believe" that all these Scientists who are highly intelligent and educated and accept the theory of evolution are stupid, delusional or just plain being lead astray by the "evil one"? But of course the bible, which tells us stories of talking animals, unicorns, fiery flying serpents, describes god as a vicious little god who can't beat a bunch of ignorant savages with armored chariots, kills babies (first born) and orders infants dashed against ground and pregnant women ripped open, this crap you accept as true?
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AmericanIdiot1 year, 2 months ago
Where in the Bible do you find unicorns and flying serpents?
A talking ass I do recall, in the story of Balaam. Would that you were as intelligent as that donkey.
God is not vicious, but infinitely merciful. But God answers prayers, and he does defeat ignorant savages with or without the help of aromored chariots.
My strength is not in chariots or horses, but in the Living God.
Through prayer I have escaped from bombs, bullets, knives, nooses, imprisonment, and the pit of despair.
You fool that doubts God! I affirm that God is real - believe it!
Yes, God did slay the first born of Egypt, as a warning!
Do not call down the same punishment upon yourself!
Can Darwin save you from danger? Can DNA forgive your sins?
You pray to a false God and an idol that cannot save.
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Bkumm1 year, 2 months ago
That's true, david, although in this case I think it probably is the same person. It would be unusual for two people of the same name to occupy the same position. I mean unless the name Nebo-Sarsekim is like John or something in Babylonian.
But, you're also correct in that it doesn't really 'prove' anything.
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david_nwpa1 year, 2 months ago
All I am saying is that the names are similar but not identical. Incidentally, reviews of Babylonian cuneiform were reviewed apparently by only one scholar. I would be interested to see peer reviews of this work. On the other hand, I would think that if it proves that Jeremiah was a real character, then his story is likely true. How cool would that be?
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infidell2space1 year, 2 months ago
No doubt this is an interesting story, but just because there is some historical evidence for some things in the bible, doesn't mean the whole bible is true.
Superman comics mention Presidents, Heads of State and places that actually exist(ed) like New York City, London, Germany etc. Does anyone on this board believe these comics literally true? How about a thousand or so years from now, if someone should find some fragments of these comics and there is some verifiable historical "stuff" on them; then what? Will some people believe that there was at one time a Man of Steel here on earth whom watched over us, protected and guided us, saved us from the evils that sought to destroy us and lead us astray?
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smithichie1 year, 2 months ago
All fiction has at least some elements of reality, how else could people relate?
Less than 150 years ago, Troy was thought of as nothing but a mythical city created by the imagination of Homer. When Troy was found to be real that did not mean Zeus, Poseidon and other gods and heros in Homer's tale suddenly became real anymore than superman would be real thousands of years from now.
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infidell2space1 year, 2 months ago
No doubt this is an interesting story, but just because there is some historical evidence for some things in the bible, doesn't mean the whole bible is true.
Superman comics mention Presidents, Heads of State and places that actually exist(ed) like New York City, London, Germany etc. Does anyone on this board believe these comics literally true? How about a thousand or so years from now, if someone should find some fragments of these comics and there is some verifiable historical "stuff" on them; then what? Will some people believe that there was at one time a Man of Steel here on earth whom watched over us, protected and guided us, saved us from the evils that sought to destroy us and lead us astray?
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Bkumm1 year, 2 months ago
There is no question (or at least very little) that historical events mentioned in the Bible are to some degree, either lesser or greater, true. However, that does not make the entire book either true, nor completely accurate.
Certainly, there was a King Nebuchadnezzar. Certainly, there was a sack of Jerusalem in the mid sixth century BCE. The historical parts of it do not, however, mean that any of it is the work of God for there is NO historical evidence for things like the burning bush, the tablets of the ten commandments, et al. They simply don't exist.
But, this is a good article and a good find Zaph.
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david_nwpa1 year, 2 months ago
Perhaps practical then, but come on, can you imagine swiping that thing through a scanner? How would you shove that in an ATM 3,000 years ago?
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lancaster1 year, 2 months ago
Bkumm
So what does BCE mean ? is this an atempt to politically correct the Bible it still means B.C. no matter what you call it , my Grand mother went blind , social workers called it visably challanged , my Grandmothers response was short and to the point " it does not mater what you call it I am still blind " True for this article .
Anyway to more important maters , why should the Bible not be the truth , of course those who don't believe will use what ever small thing to discredit what they don't believe , or anything that sounds too fantastic to be true , you all limit God to your own abilities , if I can not do it then God can not also , you seem to forget ( quite conveniently )
that God is a supernatural being capable of performing wonders with ease , and if He wants to create a burning bush why not , wipe out pharoah's army , easy stuff , God is not concerned with so called " historical evidence " He does not reply on your beleif , to exsist .
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Bkumm1 year, 2 months ago
BCE is way that most historians write about the time before Anno Domini. Things change, it is the way of all things.
Anyway to less important matters. Why should the Bible be the truth? Of course those who believe will seize upon any small thing to 'prove' that which they believe no matter how insignificant it may be. If god does not show himself to me then I can not believe.
God has given me no reason to believe in his existence as a personal, literal being. If the events in the Bible are literally true in all respects then there would be evidence for them. If they are not then there would not be. So far, most of the evidence leads to the inevitable conclusion that the supernatural events in the Bible did not happen.
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sanctusvia1 year, 2 months ago
If the god of the xian bible can show evidence of himself to a bunch of shepherds a few thousand years ago, then why can he not do the same now? He obviously does not require faith. Thomas doubted. Then, according to the bible, his god proved his existence to him. But he requires faith of us? Ridiculous. If a god such as that actually does exist, he's not worth worshiping. More like a petulant child.
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Mutainia1 year, 2 months ago
The book of Jeremiah would get even MORE of a boost if people read the 50 and 51st chapters changing "Babylon" to Iraq, "people of the north" to "Kurds, "nations being mad from being drunk on Babylon wine" to "because of the oil", "arrows as a mighty expert man" to "cruise-missiles", "fanners" to "helicopter gunships", "passages are stopped, reeds are burned with fire" to well, what Saddam did to the marsh Arabs during the early 1990s to squash the up-risings in the south of Iraq. Also, "break in pieces chariot and rider, break in pieces etc., etc., etc.," to car bombs.
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AmericanIdiot1 year, 2 months ago
Some say these are the end times. I do not know, but I can attest that there is more blaphemy, idolatry, and lack of faith now, than in previous eras. I do not know what people believed in the past, but to openly mock religion (Andre Serrano, "****** christ"); and desecrate holy objects and destroy holy shrines (tomb of Joseph)was not tolerated in the past, as it is now. Note how people mock Mohamed in the vilest terms on Netscape! Even if one doubts he were a prophet, how do we know?
Let the faithful people seperate themselves from the unbelievers. Do not try to preach to them; they cannot be saved. But do warn those who will listen, that the judgement of God is irrevocable. Better to repent now than to continue to turn astray.
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