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Neophile1 year, 4 months ago

She's got quite a mouth on her for someone who cares so deeply about church, god and jesus christ.
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  beachboy60001 year, 4 months ago
  
  I think the thing may be a set up. The video cam just happens to be on at the right time and place huh?
  I do have to say that I love the father in the video. Talk about keeping a low profile. lol
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  MissStylish1 year, 4 months ago
  
  Completely staged. Just look at how its obviously the 'Dad' who turns on the camera and walks across the scene. It does bring up a valid point. There is often a 'questioning' stage allowed in all religions but when you do go against the perceived thought,whatever religion you follow your mother will always react like that.
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    mesodude1 year, 4 months ago
    
    I don't see how the dad can be turning on the camera when the camera is clearly on the other side of the dining room table---yards away.
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natashas1 year, 4 months ago

That was hard to watch.
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  UnusualSuspect1 year, 4 months ago
  
  He's only an atheist? Not a drug addict, a convicted felon, a rapist, a murderer? Now those are things to get upset about with your child!
  Talking about hard to watch...look for the video surveillence tape showing a 91-year old man being beaten repeatedly in the face by a car jacker. And....there were people one car's distance away in the parking lot who did nothing! Shame!
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    spkguy1 year, 4 months ago
    
    "So your an athiest." "Yes, I don't believe in God." "Give me a fudging break."
    You know what, she needs a break and maybe a little (I'm o'k your o'k.) Ie: some psychiatric help.
    One could conclude that she may have some other underlying issues.
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  Neophile1 year, 4 months ago
  
  Agreed. I cringed when she stood up because I was expecting her to clobber the poor kid.
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2sidestoeverything1 year, 4 months ago

Wow she really lost it.
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  quicksilver06021 year, 4 months ago
  
  The good news: Somebody recognized the insanity and videotaped this; perhaps there's at least one healthy-minded person in the mix.
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mesodude1 year, 4 months ago

This is what happens when people procreate and raise children as if they were meant to be trained seals to be molded in their own image as opposed to individual, independent-minded people with their own hopes, dreams, and beliefs.
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  Mowens19841 year, 4 months ago
  
  It isn't always 'black and white' when decided what you would call brainwashing and what the parent might see as being a role model.
  I'm sure if/when you have children, you will do what you believe to be in their best interest for their sake.
  This isn't the clearest model of that, but MOST parents try to be an example for their children, not turn them into Nazi children.
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    toph19731 year, 4 months ago
    
    Unfortunately. Religion is Brainwashing. Why then is the congregation called sheep? Religion is not a good role model. Obviously this women is no role model anyway. with the language she was using. This is typical of religious people though. They act contrary to their beliefs because they have their ticket punched to heaven.
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      Mowens19841 year, 4 months ago
      
      'sheep' is a metaphor because they call Jesus the 'shepard'. It was relevant to the time and can easily be understood as many of the people were shepards or knew of the work of shepards... it's speaking to a group of people in terms that they can easily comprehend.
      Do you think 2000 years ago they called each other 'sheep' in the terms they use it now? I think not, don't twist words to make your false agenda comfortable for yourself.
      And her action is no more 'typical' of a religious person as it is for anyone. Are you saying if I didn't have religion I'd curse less? What a nonsensical statement.
      I'd take advice from swiss cheese over yours, it has less holes in it.
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        Neophile1 year, 4 months ago
        
        I believe what toph was indicating was 'typical' was the behavior that suggests people can behave however they like as long as they go to church (eg. they don't practice what they preach, eg. hypocrisy). This hypocrisy has been identified so frequently (come on, we've all seen it) that it is accurate to describe it as 'typical'.
        Side note: didn't Jesus condemn hypocrisy?
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        Mowens19841 year, 4 months ago
        
        I can understand and agree with that.
        It just gets old hearing the "religious people are bad" "you aren't better than us" attitude when most of the Christians and church-goers I know don't have that attitude whatsoever.
        There is plenty of hypocrisy... there's plenty of ego and lack of humility in churches but there's just as much outside of them. People have to realize that beyond the beliefs and church, we're all still the same people.
        The irony is people who do not attend churches say that church-goers have no right to judge and critisize those that do not, and that they have a holier than thou attitude... yet there's a double standard for those who do not attend churches throwing darts at those that do.
        It's easy to attack or critisize someone whose morals and beliefs/lack thereof hold them to a different standard than someone who might have different standards... but that goes both ways.
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        Neophile1 year, 4 months ago
        
        I couldn't agree more.
        I should add that hypocrisy is identifiable on both sides of the fence as well. As you noted in another comment there is hypocrisy in atheists celebrating Christmas.
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        Mowens19841 year, 4 months ago
        
        Good, I'm glad we could meet on common ground. :P
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        saneman1 year, 4 months ago
        
        Buying a tree and decorating it and giving gifts to one's loved ones doesn't mean that they are celebrating the meaning of Christmas. If atheists attend Christmas service at churches, then it could be classified as being hypocrisy.
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        Mowens19841 year, 4 months ago
        
        Buying a tree and decorating it and giving gifts to one's loves ones also doesn't encompass the meaning of Christmas. That is simply tradition.
        I may be off on this, but I think the Christmas tree originated in Germany? Somewhere in Europe. And it had nothing to do with religion (at the time)
        Christmas has to be the most skewed holiday we celebrate.
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        Neophile1 year, 4 months ago
        
        I think you're splitting hairs along the lines of your personal interpretation of celebrating Christmas. I think you're right in doing so, but understandably, it means that we're going to have different ideas of what hypocrisy is where Christmas and atheism is concerned.
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        saneman1 year, 4 months ago
        
        No, just because Atheists buy trees and decorate them and give gifts to loved ones doesn't mean they are hypocrites, because someone else mistakenly believes they are celebrating the meaning of Christmas.
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        DeadHead131 year, 4 months ago
        
        Christmas is an American tradition, and its roots in religion have always been questionable. The celebration itself directly stems from old pagan Norse and Roman holidays; Jesus was tacked on by the church to gain popularity.
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        toph19731 year, 4 months ago
        
        Thank you neophile. This was exactly what I meant.
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        Mowens19841 year, 4 months ago
        
        Saying it's "typical" just because a large number of people do it is still generalizing. It's "typical" behavior for someone without religion to act the same way with their child over any issue imaginable... so what's the point you're trying to make?
        People would be just as offended if I heard of an African-American committing a crime and I said, "Typical black person", or seeing a Mexican holding a 'Will work for $$$' sign and saying, "Typical Mexican"
        Just because a large body (not the majority) of people may fall into this category, it can still just as easily be offensive or untrue for the majority.
        I just wanted you to realize how that could be offensive to all those to which it does not apply.
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      cougardoogan1 year, 4 months ago
      
      There's a big difference between religion and relationship
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    mesodude1 year, 4 months ago
    
    "I'm sure if/when you have children, you will do what you believe to be in their best interest for their sake."
    We agree. My main point is that I think many people have children for the wrong reasons. Unless their motivation for having children is to clone themselves, it seems to me that reasonably self-actualized people would conceive a child with the knowledge and understanding that children are going to make choices in life which they feel are right for *them* and that the parent won't always agree with those choices.
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      Mowens19841 year, 4 months ago
      
      It's a frightening thought to believe that people would be near clones of some of the people we have to deal with on a daily basis. :D
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BronxBomber1 year, 4 months ago

I guess an atheist is a person with no 'invisible' means of support.
This is a quite a video to show... on Mother's day!
No card for you mom!
LMAO!
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  Bacalao1 year, 4 months ago
  
  I'm glad my mother let each of her children follow their own path to enlightenment. Be that to one god or annother, or none.
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greeneyes1 year, 4 months ago

What an example...way to go Mom! Poor kid....
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NelsonR1 year, 4 months ago

Glad the kid didn't say he was agnostic or Buddhist!!
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  kobzikov1 year, 4 months ago
  
  The kid didn't play his cards right though.
  He should have said that he doesn't believev in god, but still believes in Santa Clause. That way he would have been an atheist with a present on Christmas.
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    kiki57111 year, 4 months ago
    
    he he
    yea, I'd tell her I still believe, but only at Christmas time.
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kobzikov1 year, 4 months ago

That's right, Michael.
It's not ok!
What do you think will happen to US economy on Christmas if everyone became an atheist? It would probably go in recession. Did you think about that, Michael?
I guess you didn't. All you did was weaken the country. That's all you did. You put American economy in danger.
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  deathray1 year, 4 months ago
  
  I thought it was interesting that she pulled the "you're not geting anything for Christmas" card with the kid, and he didn't care. With that gesture, she overplayed her hand, and the kid won.
  Isn't that the way modern religion goes? Believe and you get presents?
  As far as mom is concerned, membership has it's privileges.
  
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    Mowens19841 year, 4 months ago
    
    Give me a break... explain to me how that works with the millions upon millions of parents who buy their kids presents for christmas and have no religious affiliation?
    Quit spreading your hatemongering with your generalizations. Just as many "athiests" and people of other religions take part in Christmas as Christians do (which by the way is -not- a Christian holiday...)
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      deathray1 year, 4 months ago
      
      She tried to bribe him into belief with Christmas presents. It was pretty classic manipulation on her part.
      As far as I'm concerned, I wasn't hatemongering, I simply thought the bribery was an interesting ploy, and the kid called her on it.
      She was clearly shocked.
      Heck, I celebrate the holiday season just like everyone else. Just because I am not a Christian has nothing to do with enjoying a season of good fellowship. If you want Christmas to be a Christian affair, then stop commercializing it...oh, and make sure that everyone's holidays are national holidays as well.
      
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        Mowens19841 year, 4 months ago
        
        As a Christian, I have no problem with other commercialized religion. I have no problem seeing it in public.
        When debating the ever present debate of posting the Ten Commandments (I was neither in favor or opposed to it) I suggested it would be 'fair' to post other religions as people desired. An easy solution...
        It wasn't the right thing for her to do to bribe him, but I just don't like hearing someone say it's a 'Christian tactic' to "Bribe into belief" like it's something they teach you in Sunday School.
        If any religion is guilty of bribery and going to any limits to convert, in my opinion, my vote in on Mormons.
        I'd have agreed as long as you don't label it a 'Christian' only affair simply because that's what the debate was over. That aside, yeah, it was pretty funny.
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        toph19731 year, 4 months ago
        
        But Christianity stole "Christmas" from Paganism. Christ wasn't even born in the Winter. Astrological recors prove that he was born in the summer. They invented Christmas to try and make christianity more appealing to the Pagans, who in the 3rd week of December would celebrate the Solstice. I am an athiest and I celebrate the Solstice. Not some made up birthday of Christ.
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        Mowens19841 year, 4 months ago
        
        How is the exact day of the birth relevant to the purpose to which it served?
        I don't believe Jesus was born on December 25th but I have no doubt the birth took place. The date means nothing to me and doesn't effect anything in any way.
        And you're free to celebrate your Solstice and athiesm without scrutiny from me, it was you who in an above post attacked my religion without just cause.
        You can disagree, but I'd appreciate some respect as I am giving to you. I may disagree but I still respect your personal feelings.
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        toph19731 year, 4 months ago
        
        I didn't disrespect you in any way. So you think that it's okay for a religion to lie about when Jesus was born to make what they are selling appeal more to people that had a different belief system? Then Christianity demonized pagans that did not convert. The Church has done nothing but lie for thousands of years. From the Bible to God, the Church has done nothing but lie.
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        Neophile1 year, 4 months ago
        
        Actually the church hasn't just lied for thousands of years. It has also overseen genocides, subjugated women, endorsed slavery, etc. etc. etc. I could go on.
        Give credit where credit is due! :)
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        PapaWolf1 year, 4 months ago
        
        Mowens,
        I re-read Toph's post. It didn't say anything about Christianity, but "Religion," assuming you're talking about:
        >>Unfortunately. Religion is Brainwashing. Why then is the congregation called sheep? Religion is not a good role model. Obviously this women is no role model anyway. with the language she was using. This is typical of religious people though. They act contrary to their beliefs because they have their ticket punched to heaven.
        Being a Christian, I was more offended by the woman's actions & words than of Toph's post. And yes, I HAVE seen a LOT of hypocrisy from Christians, AWA other religions.
        Doesn't anyone find it interesting that she didn't even ask him WHY he no longer believed in God?
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        Mowens19841 year, 4 months ago
        
        "Religion" encompasses Christianity. And what was said was offensive to be.
        Claiming I'm some brainwashed person, unable to think for myself, basing my life on horrible morals and being told that using bad language is typical of those who have religion.
        Tell me how that isn't offensive and grossely (sp) generalizing?
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        PapaWolf1 year, 4 months ago
        
        To me, there's a difference between my "Faith" and my "Religion." If you look around the world today, or over the past few decades, you'll see the hypocrisy of organized religion. From Jim Joneses, the Jims of Jim & Tammy Faye Bakers, the Jimmy Swaggarts, W's preacher who had to resign, N. Ireland Catholics & Protestants killing each other, Muslims claiming that Islam is a religion of peace while killing innocents, Christians blowing up hospitals & killing innocent people because abortion is a sin, and on, and on, and on, and......
        If someone wants to believe religion brainwashes people, that's his/her problem. And may be from personal experience. I actually had someone from "The Way" tell me for $200 & 2 weeks w/them, I was guaranteed to go to heaven.
        You have to admit that most modern religions don't really encourage individualism or questioning of their teachings.
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        eviln3d1 year, 4 months ago
        
        Actually I thought the reason for picking the date in December was because those old dude in the day thought that truly great men would die on the day they were conceived and so if he died at easter then that would have been the day he was conceive and you mark off the time from that point to when he would have been born.
        
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Natalie11831 year, 4 months ago

Why was she yelling at him? WWJD? Jesus would not yell at that child. Jesus loves all the lttle children. All the children of the world. That Mom needs Jesus.
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ShondaLeeT1 year, 4 months ago

I have to say that I am not actually surprised by her behavior. Most "christians" feel morally superior and will stop at nothing to force others to join their practice. I am a little shocked that she was treating a teenager like a 7 year old. How out of touch is that family? Bribing him with the threat of withholding christmas gifts was sheer genius-worked like a charm didn't it? The eunich sitting on the barstool next to that kid should have bought a new pair and stood up to the witch. I don't think I could sit in silence while someone treated my child in that manner.
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  Charlson1 year, 4 months ago
  
  Yeah, I also wondered about the older male at the table. Was he the father, older brother or the mother's boyfreind? Seems he didn't feel as fervent as the shrew about God or he was p*ssy whipped and knew to keep his mouth shut. I feel sorry for the kid with such a domineering and twisted mother.
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  Helixbuilder1 year, 4 months ago
  
  You are generalizing unless you have some data to support your claim that "Most "christians" feel morally superior...".
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    Mowens19841 year, 4 months ago
    
    I agree.
    I think you're confusing the idea of being 'morally superior' and being 'morally justified'.
    I would say more Christians feel firmly that they know how to live out the best life possible and would wish nothing more than for people to enjoy a good life free of fear, doubt, pain, etc. At least that's how we do it at our church.
    The ideals of Christianity by your example is like having the cure for cancer and refusing to share it. A Christian isn't "better" than other people and they aren't free from the turmoil of life.
    If you can get past your God-hating and 'fantasy story' attitude... if nothing else, think of religion as a doctrine of laws and standards to ensure you live the best life you can.
    I don't see how anyone can refute that without admitting they want struggle and more problems in their lives.
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      Mowens19841 year, 4 months ago
      
      I just mean religion is more than just what some would consider glamorized stories of magic and heroism.
      The underlying message throughout the Bible is "Do good to others, take take of one another. Try to help those in need."
      Those principals presented in the Bible are extremely hard to argue with considering about 80% of the Bible's "laws and standards" match nearly entirely those laws that govern the United States.
      Look at the commandments! With the exception of maybe 2 of them, we already follow all the others:
      Don't kill, don't steal, don't lie... we all do those things.
      That's all I meant to say... people get so hung up on "Do I believe in God or not?" and they miss some of the most important things that the Bible offers.
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      XXanyoneXX1 year, 4 months ago
      
      I think that a lot of atheists would wish nothing more than for people to enjoy a good life free of fear, doubt, and empty promises. At least a lot of the ones I know are like that.
      And atheists don't hate God. How can they hate something that isn't real to them? But you're correct about having a 'fantasy story' attitude. Atheists, however, would accuse you of having an 'established fact' attitude about things that aren't.
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        Mowens19841 year, 4 months ago
        
        I can agree with that. A good portion of Christians do have that attitude... and it's horribly unfortunate.
        I do not feel that way. I don't think I have the golden ticket to life and that it's clear sailing for me.
        I would like to research common beliefs (if there are any) of Athiests and see how they compare to Christianity.
        There are often times I feel myself ashamed to be associated with "the church" as some might put it, because of the negativety surrounding it.
        All in all, I want to get the most out of life... enjoy myself, and at all times possible make life easier for other people who need it. I strive for selflessness and humbleness, not an "I'm right all the time attitude".
        Push aside all the stigma/stories of the church and I'm no different than your average "Athiest" or Pagan. That's why the high level of hostility I receive for preaching my faith is so baffling to me.
        I just ask that you please try to understand how it feels.
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        Mowens19841 year, 4 months ago
        
        I have an open mind and I'm willing to look into things without passing an unchangeable judgement on them.
        Don't take me for a thoughtless drone who only believes in Christ because I was raised that way. Fact is, my parents don't attend church and from what I know, are not Christians.
        No one in my family or friends forces me to attend church or be a religious person, it was a decision I made for myself. All too often people *cough*toph*cough* think religion is brainwashing.
        The irony is just as many people say things like smoking, homosexuality, cursing, video games... pretty much anything you can think of, people will say these things do not influence our children and that they do not take after these things, yet when it comes to religion, they claim it has some unexplained power over the child's thought process.
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        XXanyoneXX1 year, 4 months ago
        
        I too want to get the most out of life and make life easier for other people. I too strive for selflessness and humbleness. I'm able to do all of this without feeling as though I'm being watched and will be judged for my actions some day. I do it simply because it's how I would like people to treat me.
        Living in such a highly Christian nation as the US, I often feel the need to defend my beliefs (or rather, lack thereof). I was brought up Christian and, after having doubts that I couldn't shake, I did a lot of research to clear the doubts away. I came out of that process as an atheist, and I feel that my position is justified. I try not to take an "I'm always right" attitude, but it's tough sometimes living in a country with like 90% of the people believing in a higher power of some kind, and thinking I'm immoral for rejecting all such claims.
        As for the beliefs of atheists, the only thing they really believe is no gods exist. An atheist's life is entirely secular.
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        Mowens19841 year, 4 months ago
        
        I don't know your personal life experiences or how you were taught and treated but I can agree with just about every statement you made.
        As a Christian, I don't push my agenda on others. I don't try to convert anyone. I guess you could call me a more 'modernized Christian'. I put my opinion out there and let other people take it or leave it.
        I don't necessarily consider myself 'right' and I defiantely don't consider myself better. But hey, it sounds like we want the same things out of life and when you really get down to it, whether Heaven or a 6 foot hole in the ground becomes our permanent homes, living a 'good' life is all that mattered while alive.
        I don't have the energy to debate anymore, so I'm calling a truce. haha ;P (besides, I should probably get back to work!)
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        n8311 year, 4 months ago
        
        It sure is a lot easier to say I don't believe in God because if you believe in God and don't live the life you know you should then you'll go through life worrying about going to H E double hockey sticks. And who would want to do that hey. I'd rather say I choose to believe for the fact--Better safe than sorry! Than to just say I choose not to believe. Don't worry God wont force you to believe in him. He wants people to want to believe in him, who choose to believe.
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        Mowens19841 year, 4 months ago
        
        I remember having that revelation about 5 years after being baptised.
        Being only 12, it just popped in my head, "Why wouldn't someone want to do this?"
        It would seem you're playing with fire (no pun intended) to not do it. It's like someone offering you free insurance on something you buy and you turn it down. There's no harm in taking it.
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        eviln3d1 year, 4 months ago
        
        It wouldn't be a bad deal if really was free... but religion isn't free. Religion seeks to control your life and in return give you a better hereafter.
        Do you consider 10% of your gross income for the rest of your life free?
        Do you consider someone else telling you what you can and can not do (playing cards [baptist], eating pork chops[jews], showing your face in public[muslims]) as being free?
        Your only twelve so you haven't had your local church start hitting you up for cash yet. But they will. As soon as you are foolish enough to join a church it will start hounding you for money harder than you can imagine.
        
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        Mowens19841 year, 4 months ago
        
        You don't -have- to pay 10% of your income to be a Christian... or even go to church or to be 'saved'.
        In fact, I don't usually attend church just to avoid the ego and hypocritically behavior... but that doesn't make me any less of a Christian or any less 'saved'.
        I don't feel I'm being told what to do. There's nothing in the Bible that I don't already do or don't do.
        And I'm not 12, I'm 22.
        On top of your "money scheme" idea, I don't pay an offering at all. In fact, they pay me to run the sound system. So that sort of blows your whole conspiracy out of the water.
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        eviln3d1 year, 4 months ago
        
        actually it just means your a freeloader. Poor athiest me would never steal my way into a movie for free, yet bible thumper you seems happy to do so.
        And folks like you are the most pathetic "Christians" on the planet. I have more respect for some true believer that actually attends church and pays their admission price than some hack like yourself that has probably never even owned a bible.
        If you had owned I bible I'm pretty sure you've never read it, if you had maybe you can explain how you follow God's laws in the old testament. Sacrificed any animals lately?
        
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        Mowens19841 year, 4 months ago
        
        So according to you, if I paid the 10% to the church, I'm being ripped off and taken advantage of, but if I don't pay the 10%, I'm a freeloader?
        And where's your whole "Bible thumper" thing coming from? Since when was knowledge a bad thing? I wasn't pressing my religion on anyone. Leave labels out of this when they aren't due.
        There's no winning either way for you is there? It's your way or it's wrong? A church isn't a theme park or a movie, you don't pay for admission. It's free to anyone and everyone.
        Besides, you don't know my financial situation. What if I can't afford to pay into the church. Am I not deserving of religion because of my income? What a closed mind you have.
        Your entire last paragraph is irrevelant as the laws in the old testiment were forfeit for the laws in the new testiment.
        Seems you know much less of the Bible than you pretend to.
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        eviln3d1 year, 4 months ago
        
        No I'm well versed in the religion and in no place does any bible say skip the first 600 pages that first parts just filler. The fact is "God" doesn't even speak to anyone that wrote the new testament, "God" yammered quite a bit in the first half, hell he gave old moses a f*&king stone copy of his top ten list.
        It is now quite clear that you don't have a clue what your talking about. Anyone that thinks their is no price of admission to becoming a christian is flat out stupid. At the very least you have to give your soul to Jesus, now if your a Christian you should be considering your immortal soul as pretty pricey and trading it for a peice of heaven sight unseen seem pretty high.
        Fact is you are the perfect example of the hypocritical bible thumper, spouting off about something you know nothing about. Do you even know who wrote the bible or what books were left out? Didn't think so. If you want to defend something at least learn what your defending.
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        Mowens19841 year, 4 months ago
        
        In saying, A new covenant, he hath antiquated the first - Hath shown that it is disannulled, and out of date. Now that which is antiquated is ready to vanish away - As it did quickly after, when the temple was destroyed.
        - Hebrews 8:13
        Point proven. I know what I'm talking about.
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        eviln3d1 year, 4 months ago
        
        No the point isn't proven you've quote a line writen by Tertullian 150 years after the cruciFICTION of Jesus. Did God himself cast down fire and write it in stone? No you've got one line that is quite frankly open to interpretation. If as you say the old testament is to be ignored then why include any of it at all? Better yet why did God wait 150 years after Jesus died for the sins of man before belching it out to good old Tertullian?
        The bible is full of logical flaws and mistakes. The fact is you don't know what your talking about you just memorized some verses like a trained monkey. Look into the history of the bible and you'll soon realize(if you have any brain cells functioning) that the bible was a tool to bring together divergent people into a common belief so that the rulers of rome could better control their subjects. That is the reason they cherry picked books about Jesus, the only wanted to use the ones that served their purpose.
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        eviln3d1 year, 4 months ago
        
        Oh my you lied you said your 12 but later you say your 22... I think that means your going to hell.
        Frankly you should let people believe your 12, then they can just let your ignorance go down to your age.
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        Mowens19841 year, 4 months ago
        
        When did I ever say I was 12? Never... Would you like to quote that? Or maybe you just took the year from my name and thought you did the math right.
        And you must realize that what you were saying is wrong considering you've given up debate and resorted to namecalling. Who is the one acting 12 now?
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        eviln3d1 year, 4 months ago
        
        your own words. "Being only 12, it just popped in my head, "Why wouldn't someone want to do this?""
        You said being only 12 not when I was 12. Clear enough troll?
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        Mowens19841 year, 4 months ago
        
        I was talking about when I was younger and was baptized. If you had read the entire paragraph, it would have made sense to you. That below meaning I was baptized at age 7.
        "I remember having that revelation about 5 years after being baptised.
        Being only 12,..."
        
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        eviln3d1 year, 4 months ago
        
        actually the way you wrote it implies you were baptized at the age of 7, 5 years before you turned 12. I gave you the benefit of the doubt and took your word that you were baptized at 7 which would have given you the defense of doing something cause mom and dad said so. By the age of 12 you should have had the balls to tell mom and dad you weren't dumb enough to believe in God.
        You might realize that you started a new paragraph with "Being only 12,..." if you intended people to read it as you were 12 when you were baptized you should have made it another sentence to the prior one not a new paragraph. Then you could argue that you said you were 12 when baptized.
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        XXanyoneXX1 year, 4 months ago
        
        But by that line of reasoning, I'd have to believe in Allah as well, just to be safe. I wouldn't want to end up in Muslim Hell anymore than Christian Hell. I would also have to believe in Lord Brahman according to some denominations of Hinduism so that I don't end up in Hindu Hell. Just to be safe, I'd have to pledge my faith to all of these gods. But they all demand EXCLUSIVE worship, so there really IS no way to play it safe.
        I figure that I'll just live my life being good to others and in the unlikely event that I survive my own death somehow, I'd hope that a benevolent god would recognize that I was generally good and not be so concerned about whether or not he was worshiped. Besides, how much control does a person really have over what they believe? Could you honestly believe in the Tooth Fairy if you wanted to?
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        Coatl1 year, 4 months ago
        
        You're assuming that not believing is the easiest way, but (at least for me) it isn't, all of you who have changed your beliefs once in your life (from one religion to another or for no religion) maybe you can understand me. The first thing I felt was fear to even recognize myself that I didn't believe, to even think about it was kind of forbidden. But the first time I accepted to myself that I didn't believe, all the things that religion have told me that would happen if I didn't belive made me feel fear. I used to think like you It's safer to believe, but how can you "choose" to believe? You can certainly choose to follow a religion, but you can't choose wether if you believe in it or not.
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    Charlson1 year, 4 months ago
    
    Do you feel your religious beliefs is a ticket to paradise? Or at least the vehicle? Then you feel morally superior. It's the same with all religions. Your beliefs will get you into YOUR paradise. Their beliefs will not.
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      PapaWolf1 year, 4 months ago
      
      >>Do you feel your religious beliefs is a ticket to paradise? Or at least the vehicle? Then you feel morally superior.
      Have you read CS Lewis' _Chronicles_of_Narnia? In the last book, as Narnia was ending, all the "true believers" went to live w/Aslan (ie, God). The only thing was that the "true believers" were not only the Narnians (Christians, Jews, etc., depending on your point of view) but ALL who lived and worked at what was "right" - even the mortal enemies of the "chosen" Narnians.
      I know many main-stream religious types would argue the point that anyone can be "saved," but it says in the Bible, "Judge not...."
      Just my thoughts. Don't know how relevant they are, except to say that most of my "religious" friends don't believe we are the only ones going to "Heaven" - meaning we DON'T feel morally superior, just different.
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saneman1 year, 4 months ago

Wow! I thought religious people weren't suppose to swear. She's pretty handy with the "F" word. What a hypocrite! Also, who's the Pillsbury Doughboy in the video? Obviously believing in God isn't doing him any good. Hey, buddy didn't God tell you to lay off the Ho-Ho's?
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ontherock1 year, 4 months ago

Sure the mother acted like a psycho and the father just sat there, but who knows what led up to the scene??? Who knows if the kid had just told them his girlfriend was pregnant or he was fired or something? The mother starts screaming Oh my god and then he starts in with the I don't believe in god stuff.
The kid might just be a jerk trying to get her going?????
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  Charlson1 year, 4 months ago
  
  Yes and it was so easy. No, the mother is a control freak and could not abide dissention in her household. You will believe as I do or you won't be getting Christmas gifts! I guess Jesus is Santa Claus and if you don't believe in him, no presents.
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quicksilver06021 year, 4 months ago

HA! If there's a God in heaven, she'll shut-up...
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jaern1 year, 4 months ago

Funny. I read the article clip and then all the comments before seeing the video. She said the F word once. She threatened him with no Christmas presents and going to church daily. You call that flipping out??? Obviously, you don't know MY mother.
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  jaern1 year, 4 months ago
  
  You must be watching a different video than I saw.
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quicksilver06021 year, 4 months ago

Not the point.
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XXanyoneXX1 year, 4 months ago

That makes me scared to tell MY mom! I realized a couple months ago that I just can't swallow a story full of so many holes, but I haven't been able to tell anyone in my family yet. I know they're all going to look at me differently, but I'm working up to it...
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