Why don't we talk about hell any more, asks the Pope »
Posted by: gatitabonitasen 1 year, 5 months agoFor centuries it has been one of the Catholic Church's favourite topics. But the Pope has given a fresh reminder to his flock that Hell is hell and bemoaned the fact that it rarely gets talked about these days. The 79-year old pontiff used a Mass in the gritty Fidene suburb of Rome to put damnation back on the agenda. "Jesus came to tell us e
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gregis31 year, 5 months ago
Yes, of course. The Catholic Church is involved in a big conspiracy to control the masses through fear. *Rolls Eyes*
Jesus spoke of Hell. It is a doctrine of the Catholic Church, and it has been from the start. Satan's greatest victory is convincing the world that he does not exist.
Actually, the Catholic Faith has been growing at a rate slightly faster than the population.
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AmpLee1 year, 5 months ago
""Jesus spoke of Hell.""
The word 'hell' not only doesn't appear in the Gospels, it doesn't appear in the original texts of the entire bible PERIOD
This is indisputable fact.
so why was it translated into it? why is it there?
Jesus never spoke of hell. He spoke of Gehenna, the garbage dump outside of the walls of Jerusalem, in the valley of Ben Hinnom.
Hell is straight out of mythology, as 'pagan' a concept as Cerberus, the three-headed hound of Hades
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pagey1 year, 5 months ago
I don't think people believe in hell as much as they believe in heaven, or something beyond death.
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BoxMonkey1 year, 5 months ago
Welcome to NYC or L.A. or New Orleans . Or how about Detroit or Flint .Actually Satan prances to and fro devouring who He can . If He can sidetrack you from the Hell discussion , He's done His job .
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kedirian1 year, 5 months ago
Hell, "Holy" Father?
How come you don't live among and serve the teeming masses in the slums of Calcutta, Jakarta, Capestad, the favellas of Rio de Janeiro, or the barrios in Mexico and the American Southwest?
How come you obsess about human sexuality and remain silent about the immorality of the corporate Boardrooms?
The effects of Global Warming, in no SMALL measure brought about by YOUR Churches' and predecessors' narrow view of human sexuality, will soon convict even more humans and other animals and flora to a Hell, which would make Dante's inferno look like child's play!
What is your Church, what are YOU with your worldwide (undeserved) prestige going to do about that, other than complaining that mankind no longer falls for your medieval threats?
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endero231 year, 5 months ago
It really drives me crazy when people say they are "God fearing". That is a very catholic idea. The idea of a place full of fire just seems so....ur...outdated.
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lvrofwolves1 year, 5 months ago
On Sunday, the Pope upset the EU's 50th birthday party by suggesting that plummeting birth rates on the continent could send the continent to oblivion.
Is he serious??? maybe plummeting birth rates to those that are devout catholics.
I think people are more inspired by heaven and good will, of hope...who the hell wants to hear more about hell? especially when too many people already feel as tho hell is right now on Earth.
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lvrofwolves1 year, 5 months ago
for some odd reason I always think of that underdog cartoon and the villian Simon Barsinister-when I see the Pope..god help me!
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riverdalian1 year, 5 months ago
Hell? What does the Pope think living in this world is? Shangri-La? I'm roman catholic, but I don't think he should try to instill so much fear into society. The vatican itself doesn't exactly have clean hands y'know.
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Sloany1 year, 5 months ago
Another fundamentalist.
And what does he mean, delcining birth rates could send the continent into olivion. Last I checked many world problems like poverty, education, ect. are caused my having too many people to support. What we need are laws to stop people at having one kid for a while. China has the right idea.
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kedirian1 year, 5 months ago
Sloany, you forgot "Global Warming" AND its effects!
That, too, we owe to a Church that so abhors homosexuality and holds to the prehistoric and unproven view that "God's Plan" calls for sex ONLY for procreation...
They should instead try the view that some members of the human race - as are some of the animal family - are emotionally and sexually attracted to their own kind AND SO PRESERVE SOME BALANCE IN NATURE - which seems more in line with a God who looked at His Creation and said "It is Good!"
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NelsonR1 year, 5 months ago
Do you know the definition of coercion, to enforce, to compel and this is what the church is promoting. Do as I ask or suffer the consequences. Yeah right, reminds me of the Bible thumping preacher proclaiming righteousness or Hell for eternity.
Its time for a new tactic. How about give me $100.00 or you will be sat upon by the fat lady.
It's time for change and a new tactic by religions!
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truthiness1 year, 5 months ago
the Jews (y'know Joseph, Mary, the Apostles, and oh yeah..Jesus) have no conc epst of Hell in the religion... when you die, you're dead. When judgement comes those who are deemed worthy are raised up to live forever in an eden-like paradise, and those who are not worthy stay dead.
the carrot and stick of behavior come in this life, much like Karma.
he word Jesus used for Hell in Hebrew refered to an area outside of Jerusalem that was used as a garbage dump and therefore also occupied by carrion eaters and the insane.
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NelsonR1 year, 5 months ago
Personally, I think a god is not a god since humans have corrupted that which is preached.
The one abiding question to me, my lowly self, is the same old question, Why. The universe is infinite and we are so used to a beginning and end that the question always arises. Why, When and where did it all begin and Why?
I cannot accept faith as it is practiced today since it makes no sense whatsoever. I do not dismiss a god but I question the relevence and the Why of the premise.
In conclusion, live a life of morality and do unto others as you would want done unto you and thats it!!! Being forced by a threat of hell is not a correct path for belief, or else a human then believes in the concept of evil and coercion.
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_Ang-EL_1 year, 5 months ago
The answer to the pope's qustion is:
The devil doesn't want us to know that this world, is hell. Therefor he does not want us talking about it (cause some people like me, would figure it out.).
He also wants us to think that the commandment is Thou shalt not kill - its NOT! It is "Thou shalt not MURDER!".
They are just 2 ways, that he protects his own.
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old-squid1 year, 5 months ago
The Pope's got "Hell"
George Bush has got "Terrorists"
And the Ol' Lady's got "Not Tonight, Buster!!"
It's all about power ;(
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gregis31 year, 5 months ago
Religion has been bullied by atheists for quite a long time now. It is exactly the kind of propaganda being spouted in this thread that keeps people of faith from freely professing their faith. Keep in mind, it was atheists throughout the centuries who murdered people just for believing in Jesus.
Talk about abuse of power. "Profess yourself an atheist or we will chop off your head. Profess yourself an atheist or we will nail you to a cross upside down. Profess yourself an atheist or we will stone you to death."
You guys don't set a very good example. As many bad things as people have done while claiming to be Christians, there are 100 times that many evil acts done in the attempt to stamp out religion.
Every time someone posts an article about religion, especially Christianity, there are inevitably several comments posted that are filled with nothing but hate. It sickens me, but it has happened for centuries, you guys are just perpetuating the practice.
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KYRed1 year, 5 months ago
Ummm....profess yourself a Christian or we will burn you at the stake. Profess yourself as a Muslim or we will cut your head off. For many people here, hell is life on Earth.
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aceofspades11 year, 5 months ago
There was an old song William Frawley from the Lucy Show sang it in some movie -I think it holds true today for so many so so pious people - the song?
"Everyone Wants To Go To Heaven, But Nobody Wants To Die"
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keyfitter1 year, 5 months ago
Funny how "Gods word" can be twisted around to
suit some self-serving purposes, many of which
has to do with making more money.
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The Popes "Hell" is similar to The Shrub and his
terrorist fear tactics. They both are meant to
control and manipulate by fear.
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So, everyone here in the U.S. needs to give more
to the church, and check under our beds every night
for terrorists.
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truthiness1 year, 5 months ago
politics-faith that my theory is the best way to run society
science-faith that my method is the best way to find truth
religion-faith that I know how the universe operates
faith- an unswerving, unprovable belief that I understand a certain topic.
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keyfitter1 year, 5 months ago
All of this talk about Hell at Easter time!.
Happy Easter everyone!
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http://strangecosmos.com/content/item/4447.html
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truthiness1 year, 5 months ago
if you're refering to my comment, the jews dont follow the gospels. they didnt exist in Jesus' day. and you are reading an english translation from the latin translation from the greek translation of the hebrew.
I will freely admit to not being overly familiar with the statemtns of the apostles. However, I have studied the remarks atrributed to Jesus. In Hebrew, the place he refers to hell is what I described in my post above.
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_Ang-EL_1 year, 5 months ago
To the wealthy this world is Heaven: to the poor, hell!
And the wealthy want to keep it that way(or they would do something about it).
Jesus said feed my sheep! The wealthy say brain dirty the sheep, "Dont' feed em, teach em!". The pope takes money from the poor, when he should be giving money to the poor.
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