Religion – Pope Benedict XVI opened the Roman Catholic Church's most solemn week by urging young people during his Palm Sunday Mass to live pure, innocent lives. This year, Holy Week also includes the second anniversary of the death of Pope John Paul II. On Monday, the Catholic Church will close one phase of its investigation into John Paul's saintliness as i
this pope is so out of reality , the church have a crisis and yet he still making all kind of derrogatory statements against all kinds of sectors of the population and all kinds of issues that are driving people away from the church . They need not only to put their house in order but also let justice get served to any priest that have abused children and let them pay for what they have done and also he needs to appologize to the people for the acts they have commited against kids and their families
The Pope and the church are in no way "out of reality". In fact, if anything I would say that the church more likely has a very broad view of the world; they have the input of millions of people. I'm sure I won't convince you of this truth, I'm sure. Gatiabonitasen, I know you won't agree with this, but the priority of the church is to 1. get more souls to heaven and 2. preach the truth in and out of season. I'm sure some people would like the church to compromise its teachings, but the sin of priests or even hierarchy are no call to back down from their holy obligation.
jayson - Nice thoughts but if you recall the past, at one time through the tithe one could buy his way into heaven with the churchs acceptance of the practice.
I heard last week the threat of hell to all sinners by the pope. Now I am not god nor am I as good as the teachings of Jesus but I could not condemn "anyone" to an eternal hell, could you?? So if not, how could a god??
Nelson,
I'm very well versed on the issue of "indulgences" of which you are referring. At their base, the concept is valid. That is, one way we get closer to heaven by giving alms to the poor and needy. However, this was a practice abused by the hierarchy of the church. As a Catholic, I don't claim that members of the church have been perfect. In fact, there have been many evil popes even. What I do believe, however, is that the deposit of faith, as handed down to us from Jesus through the apostles, is spotless. As to hell? It is both a simple truth and complicated reality. It would be difficult to explain such a truth with only "300 characters" left.
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Jayson - Thanks for the post but it still fails to answer a truth, I and probably you could never condem a human to fire and brimstone for an eternity. Now if your god could, I would regretfully have to regard him as a satanistic gentleman.
Heres another thought, why would anyone, even a god need to be worshipped. I can understand despots, kings, dictators or what have you desiring this, but why would a god need this? Now as stated in my above post I believe that the tenents that Jesus preached are morally correct and regretfully many so called religious fail to practive that which is preached. Being agnostic and following basic morality for my family and myself I sincerely feel I have lived a life more religious, without religion, than your run of the mill so called christian. In other words I need no threat of hell to live with morality.
Nelson - There is no answer to your poser as any answer given would only be a feeble attempt to humanize God. In addition, I don't believe God 'needs' worship or anything else. However, I do believe God does desire relationship and in my experience, relationship grows in community.
Lastly, the issues people raise about religion in this thread don't have anything to do with God. These issues center around humans simply being human.
Hope this helps.
It is pretty easy to see that the Pope is out of touch. He actually thinks it is a good idea to keep children pure and innocent. How dare he ask the youth of the world to keep their hearts and hands pure and innocent. You know he was only trying to cause trouble. Can you imagine what chaos would happen if the youth actually listened to his tripe? It boggles the mind to even consider the thought that young people might not be having underage sex, doing drugs, or any of those "normal" things that children do. Let's pray that this message doesn't catch on, it would ruin these children's chances of a future.
Yeah, God forbid children should learn what the real world is like. They should all be wrapped up in a hermetically sealed bubbles at birth to protect them from all the world's evil and most of all from SEX, where they can continue believing that everyone on Earth is a righteous and pure virgin and believes in God and the tooth fairy, until they are 18 and we can kick them out of the house. Or better yet, send them off to war.
Sheltering your children is just as bad as brainwashing them in Church. Educate them well, but let them live their lives the way they want to.
I only hope you are not capable of reproducing. To expose children to mature subject matters by education is one thing. The Pope is asking to not have the children learn about it firsthand and in the wrong settings. It's a shame you can't tell the difference. Are you that delusional that you think a 12 year old has the experience and grey matter to deal with a 22 year old telling her it's OK to do "just this one thing"? Sir, get some help...
Teach this to your priests!
They need your sermon more than anyone else!
Just like everyone else, priests are human. They sin. So what? There is only one perfect being, His name is GOD.
Priests should not abuse children, or adults for that matter. But that has nothing to do with the validity of the Catholic faith.
Either it is truth or it isn't, and the sins of a few will never change that.
Live good pure lives for the season? what about the rest of the year? etc,,ROTF
to disrespect any religion in my eyes is a disrespect for that person, people...most anyway prefer to believe in something, the news media has found all these faults with every single thing out there, there are still good people on this planet believe it or not, Most humans have lost respect and courtesy for each other as well as the planet.
Just like Republicans, I find defenders of this Pope obsessed with a morality restricted to areas below the belt - nary a word from the Pontifex maximus about the morality stemming from the hearts and minds...
Actually, theology of the body is just one small part of the very large theology of Christianity. However, since we live in a world that is destructively obsessed with sexuality, the church and others are constantly having to defend its teaching to the world. I find that many people who have a problem with Christianity merely have a problem with what it teaches about sexuality. You see it one way, I see it the other. It's a matter of angle and perspective, I guess.
The Pope may seem to be out of touch,probably because of his location and physical appearance?The Roman Catholic empire is actually all over EVERYTHING.The DAVINCI CODE was probably made in line with the children's fable called THE BOY WHO CRIED WOLF.What I mean is that that movie presented by gay advocate/crusader Tom Hanks is so jackass stupid and ridiculous,that if any real conspiracies surface with the Catholic Church,who will take those conspiracies seriously!?With THE DAVINCI CODE,several bits and pieces of actual facts were mixed in with profound retardation,so to determine what is a real and true story line would be almost impossible.
Purity and innocence are overrated. Overindulgence is bad, but if everyone were completely pure the human race would die out fairly quickly.
Kids need to know what's out there and how they can protect themselves from it. Telling them "don't do that because it's impure" is irresponsible. The kids who will listen are the ones who wouldn't do it in the first place, and the kids who are going to do it won't have the proper information to do it safely.
there will come a time when the pope's voice will no longer be heard. Until then, let's at least hope to hear him preaching purity and innocence to the youth. They are our future.
I guess what follows is a "commentary on the comments", not on the actual article.
The Roman Catholic Church, like any other political party, has had it's share of scandal and exposure. Hiding under the cover of "religion", the "Church" has been able to mask generations of abhorrent behavior. As long as people continue to look at the organized politics of "religion" as "the works of God", they will continue to be "shocked" by the scandals. Was anyone "shocked" by "the Bill Clinton White House"? No, because it's "secular" biz.
I think the public needs to re-evaluate their understanding of the term "religion" and the way it's used in our society.
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Yes, as a past Catholic and alter boy I would say to you, Pope Benedict XVI get your own house in order. Your pedophiles have corrupted the values of the name Religion. If it were a few I could understand but we all know its many. I am not picking on just Catholics, I saw a Rabbi on T.V. going to a home of yound adolescent girls home to have sex. So do not equate your religion as being on the positive side of things, they are all corrupt.
Those who were pedophiles were not acting as Christians. I agree those guilty should suffer. But you're going to throw the baby out with the bathwater!
Not really! Take all those Middle-eastern religions (which Christianity is!) and compare them with eastern Religions....
As for "acting like Christians", you don't have Dubya, Karl Rove, Tom DeLay, and those fully-fed preachers (Falwell, Robertson, LaHaye, etx.) in mind, dou you?
No, actually I had Pope John Paul II, Mother Theresa, Father Salanus Casey, & St. Gianna Beretta. Christian and republican are not synonymous; they shouldn't be at least.
Mother Theresa said that abortion was the greatest threat to world peace, and that women shouldn't be allowed to divorce their husbands even if they're being abused. She also refused to promote condom use to prevent the spread of AIDS.
Why everyone thinks she's the paragon of religious virtue is beyond me.
Pope John Paul II ignored the conflicts in Central America and let people there be killed by right wing militant groups and ruled by dictatorships, which were funded and trained by the US.
Abortion is the greatest threat to world peace. 46 million innocent people are killed each year in the world by abortion. I can't think of many other issues so threatening in the world today.
She affirmed the principle that evil can not be used to prevent evil in stating that condoms should not be used for any reason, even to prevent AIDS.
She is a shining example of virtue because she spent her entire life in the service of people who had no one else to help them. The poor people in India will be the first to attest to her heroic virtue!
Pope John Paul II didn't ignore the conflicts in Central America. What would you expect him to do? Raise an army and go break up the fighting?
Nuclear weapons have the power to destroy far more people than abortion ever has. Fundamentalism puts them in the hands of people who do not fear reprisal. I'd say those are two far more horrible threats to world peace.
I'm not sure why I responded to you, because I don't think I can have a rational discussion with someone who thinks condoms are evil.
I hope that the Pope is not referring to keeping the youth pure and innocent for the priests sake. In my hometown there was a priest who was sent away to another town because he had sex with alterboys. He went on to do the same in the next town too. It came out a few years later when they finally sent the priest to live in some retirement facility.
NOT A JAIL EITHER, where he should have been sent!
My grandmother stated that the religious have a lot to be forgiven for!